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FCPX 10.1.2 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION

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17 Jun 2014 18:09 #47985 by Disproportionate Pictures

MsJustine wrote: As we saw from WWDC, Aperture is only next year, so Pro Apps seems to be less of a must do it now concern for Apple...151 days is long...Hopefully it is only a few more hours left..


Aperture was not mentioned at WWDC. The new "Photos" app was briefly demoed. It's more likely this will be a replacement for iPhoto and not Aperture.

And Aperture development is entirely separate from FCP X development, which is separate from Logic Pro X development. So you're generalizations about Pro Apps importance can't be generalized.

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17 Jun 2014 18:10 #47986 by Disproportionate Pictures

tpayton wrote: BTW. We are currently at 151 days. The longest between FCPX updates so far.

fcpx.tv/Pages/updatetimer.html


I said that 2 pages ago! :P

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17 Jun 2014 18:20 #47987 by daviddelreal
At this point, I'd be happy if Apple updated their "In Action" page.

www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/in-action/

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18 Jun 2014 05:32 #48008 by Karsten Schlüter

tpayton wrote: BTW. We are currently at 151 days. The longest between FCPX updates so far.


There's an OS-update (=Yosemite) in the pipeline AND an FCPX-update.
I'm too lazy to check it myself.... how was it in the past? Someone should stack the two timelines over each other ...

Media-coverage is all about 'cosmetics' of the new OS, but I wouldn't be surprised, if major changes will happen 'under the hood' of Yosemite => which probably ask for a major overhaul in complex apps such as FCPX.

maybe that simple ... ;)

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18 Jun 2014 05:35 - 18 Jun 2014 05:40 #48009 by MsJustine
What I suspect is that we will only see FCP X updates post winter 2014, after Yosemite is 90 days old and considered mature in technology age terms...

Why would Apple HQ support an obsolete, broken operating system such as Mavericks? Yosemite is there to fix the faults in Mavericks, so it would be economic insanity to upadate for Mavericks any applications when in 90 days time you have a new operating system. It would be better to spend the next 90 days debugging FCP X 11 for Yoesmite, and let FCP X 10.1.1 die a technological natural death!!
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18 Jun 2014 05:40 #48010 by Tom Wolsky
Last year 10.0.9 came out while Mavericks was about a month into beta. 10.1 came out about a month and a bit after Mavericks. That was different though as the update was very tied to the OS.

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18 Jun 2014 05:41 #48011 by Chazfest
What I'm suspecting, as many are, is a major update on Thursday. To tie in with Ripple Training's round table event.
Something else I'm wondering though - At what point does FCPX, a native Apple package, adopt the new Yosemete UI style? I was looking at the glossy buttons last night and wondering this...

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18 Jun 2014 05:42 #48012 by Tom Wolsky
What's broken in Mavericks?

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18 Jun 2014 05:42 #48013 by Chazfest
Good point, Tom. Perhaps we'll be getting 10.1.2 tomorrow, and 10.2 later in the year, once Yosemete has released.

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18 Jun 2014 05:43 #48014 by MsJustine
My point exactly, Update only after Yosemite is launched, if I was a developer, I would not put 1 second into Mavericks, there is no value to this, pump development into Yosemite.

We can all just sit back and relax, FCP 11 will be bug free, 100% in Jan 2015...

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18 Jun 2014 05:44 #48015 by MsJustine
Everything, why replace it with Yosemite??? You only introduce a brand new OS if the previous version is beyond economic salvage, as is the case with Mavericks.

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18 Jun 2014 05:46 #48016 by Chazfest
What on earth on you on about? That was only half of my point. I have no beef with Mavericks, personally.
And where are you getting FCPX 11 from?? The logical move is to 10.1.2 / 10.2 etc.

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18 Jun 2014 05:46 #48017 by Tom Wolsky
There will be no FCP 11 until there is an OS X 11.

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18 Jun 2014 05:47 #48018 by Chazfest
Bold, sweeping, innacurate comments, MsJustine :/

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18 Jun 2014 05:48 #48019 by MsJustine
A new name scheme for a new era in Apple, Yosemite is a new OS, so a new name for pro apps...I doubt Apple would use a common chinese surname for apps, Xi is a common surname in China...

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18 Jun 2014 05:49 #48020 by Tom Wolsky
Apple introduces a new OS annually. It's hard for something that's free to be economically salvaged.

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18 Jun 2014 05:49 #48021 by Chazfest
But Yosemete is also 10.10. So it's not actually a new naming scheme, numerically.. And there's been zero talk of a FCPXi or FCPX 11. This is exhausting. Are you drunk by any chance?

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18 Jun 2014 05:53 #48022 by Tom Wolsky
Yosemite is OS X 10.10. The next OS will be OS X 10.11. There will be no FCP 11. There may eventually be a 10.11, but that's some generations away.

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18 Jun 2014 05:56 #48023 by MsJustine
No, 07.50am here, clear headed, I am only calling it as I see it, you introduce something new for 1 of 2 reasons, it is better than what went before, or 2nd it solves problems that would take too long to fix in version 1.

There is no reason to kill Mavericks less than 600 days from launch, Mavericks is 10.9.

There will be compatibility issues with hardware once Yosemite is launched.

Tom your reasoning is flawed, Apple should have released FCP after 7 as 8...but no it jumped two numbers no 8, no 9, then wow...FCP X 10.0.0.....

How can you sit there and expect me to understand anything you say, when the history within FCP defies your statement???

It is very reasonable to assume that the next could be 10.1.2 or 10.2 or 11...All are valid given how Apple has worked in the past.

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18 Jun 2014 06:13 #48025 by Tom Wolsky
For many years now Apple has release a new OS annually. That's a simple fact. They do it to make something new. To promote their brands.

You have a pretty total misunderstanding of the Apple numeric scheme. When FCPX went to that name it didn't do it to skip 8 and 9 but to align itself with the OS numeric scheme.

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