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FCPX 10.1.0 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION

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27 Oct 2013 06:21 - 27 Oct 2013 06:21 #33263 by NocoDave
You'll find it here Karsten.

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27 Oct 2013 06:30 #33264 by Karsten Schlüter

NocoDave wrote: You'll find it here Karsten.]


THANK YOU, Dave, missed that outer-rim.





Interesting observation:
as you can see, these … folders are localized!
With the same terminology as FCPX … 

Usually, 'interna' are in English; only stuff showed in the UI is localized.
Looks like, some future version will add 3rd party plug-ins - YIPPIEH! :woohoo:
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27 Oct 2013 06:38 #33267 by ronny courtens
David: You can actually do Voiceovers too.

Well what do you know, I hadn't even seen that. Well, that settles it. Thank you.

- Ronny
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27 Oct 2013 07:01 #33268 by daviddelreal

ronny courtens wrote: David: You can actually do Voiceovers too.

Well what do you know, I hadn't even seen that. Well, that settles it. Thank you.

- Ronny


My pleasure.
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27 Oct 2013 08:38 #33272 by Tom Wolsky
That's been there for ages too. Nothing new there. The biggest changes are it's speed and use of modern codecs.
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27 Oct 2013 16:08 #33285 by daviddelreal

Tom Wolsky wrote: That's been there for ages too. Nothing new there. The biggest changes are it's speed and use of modern codecs.


Hi Tom, I never said it was new. I was just letting Ronny know that Voiceover Recording was present when he thought it wasn't. Agree with you on the speed and modern codecs. I can see iMovie being used for quick/small edits for amateur news/sports.
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27 Oct 2013 17:48 - 27 Oct 2013 18:07 #33290 by daviddelreal

sidderke wrote:



This looks like the new FCPX. No Project Library button in the timeline.
No rounded corners anymore.

Aside from that, it doesn't look that different.

Where did you find this photo?

Nevermind, I found it on Apple's site.
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27 Oct 2013 18:09 #33293 by Disproportionate Pictures
It was run in a Wired article, but it's also on Apple's Thunderbolt page linked via the MacPro page.

There's been some debate about whether it's actually any different (outside of the missing Timeline Index button in the lower left). While the icons look more square, that could just be a product of the interface on this high a resolution display.

But for varying reasons, I'm now thinking it is legit, and that everything that's been changed is just not visible in this image- since just about all windows have been hidden. This is just about the most basic view of the FCPX interface you can get.
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27 Oct 2013 18:17 #33294 by Julian
The big giveaway is that there is no scroll bar for the event window. The event thumbnails look more like the multicam view than regular events too.
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27 Oct 2013 18:18 #33295 by llirik
Is it just me, or is there no scroll bar on the timeline?
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27 Oct 2013 18:20 #33296 by Disproportionate Pictures
Perhaps scroll bars have become like finder windows. They only pop up when you're scrolling.
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27 Oct 2013 19:17 #33299 by Scrubelicious
I don't think we will see a free copy of Final Cut Pro or co. for the Mac Pro... wouldn't we see this for the Macbook Pro? ;)
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27 Oct 2013 19:29 #33300 by Disproportionate Pictures
Yeah- they won't do it for a specific machine. It's either going to be free or full price.
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28 Oct 2013 12:36 #33339 by R2D2

ronny courtens wrote: Correct, Tom. Used ranges were already in iMovie 11.

But the app has changed enormously under the hood. I wouldn't have touched 11 with a pole stick for any serious work. Since I have been playing around with iMovie X I now have a totally different opinion about this app. Its speed and ease of use have grown exponentially now it's 64-bit and working on AV/Foundation, even on slower systems. I think that alone is a significant change. Plus it works with Motion templates the same as FCPX, which will make it fully compatible with X. That's an important change as well.

- Ronny


Please forgive me if this is a bit off topic but this brings me to an old question/problem which MAY have been solved with iMovie 10.0 (if the code base is the same as in FCP). I have seen posts that iMovie has NOT been able to handle DV video without loss of quality after version 6 (wihtout special trics as in "iMovie Output Project" featuring Mr. Schlüter...). Apparently FCP has never had this problem. So my question is: can iMovie 10.0 give me an easy one stop shop to import and edit DV (I still have the tapes) or not? (I am thinking of buying my first Macbook Pro and just need simple editing and do not want to budget an extra 270€ and have a steep learning curve to finally manage lots of old tapes...). Any chance anyone could make a quick test? Thank you
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28 Oct 2013 13:16 #33341 by Russ Haskell

Tom Wolsky wrote: The biggest changes are it's speed and use of modern codecs.


Tom, Could you elaborate? What codecs can it now work with?

Russ
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28 Oct 2013 13:43 #33343 by Karsten Schlüter

Russ Haskell wrote: What codecs can it now work with?


I'm not Tom, but finally, after 4y, iMovie supports AVCHD v2.
1080/50p from my Panasonic - no problem.

… it was a joke, all the years, consumer cameras go 50, 60, 120p (counting GoPros as 'consumer' devices ;) ) ... and the consumer-editor supported only v1., 1080/60i max-

Imagine all those 'phone photographers', coming along with 720/120 - and iM wouldn't swallow that!
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28 Oct 2013 13:46 #33344 by Disproportionate Pictures
This is sort of interesting.

Larry Jordan has rescheduled his FCPX 4K seminar from mid November to mid January, based on the December release of both the MacPro and 10.1.

After the release date for both products was announced last week, I honestly wondered what the point of having that seminar would be. And I guess the answer is that Larry honestly thought we'd see both those products ship before Nov 15th.
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28 Oct 2013 13:49 - 28 Oct 2013 13:51 #33345 by Tom Wolsky
I haven't tested it, but I believe iM has finally abandoned the Apple Intermediate Codec. Also hoping to test it with ProRes.

Just to add, if you have pro codecs installed, the QTX player now converts some codecs to ProRes for playback. Also the QTX player finally supports JKL.
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28 Oct 2013 14:03 #33350 by Karsten Schlüter

Tom Wolsky wrote: I haven't tested it, but I believe iM has finally abandoned the Apple Intermediate Codec. Also hoping to test it with ProRes..


when proRes was installed, iM09 imported it too ...
what I can not find in iMX: no transcoded files whatsoever!

in the Event pkg, I notice only a Original Media Folder


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28 Oct 2013 14:06 #33351 by Tom Wolsky
Open one of the clips in the QT player and see if it's H.264.
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