FCPX 10.1.2 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION

I will ut a dollar down that there won't be a update until after WWDC.

daviddelreal wrote: Have there been updates in the past that were on a Wednesday or Thursday?

See below. Outside of the 10.1 release, which seems like it was only released on Thursday to coincide with the release of the MacPro, all feature releases have been on Tuesdays.

Maintenance releases have been more scattered across the week. But still mostly either Tuesday or Thursdays.

• Bold indicates "Feature" release.

10.0.0 - 2011.06.21 Tuesday
10.0.1 - 2011.09.20 91 DAYS Tuesday
10.0.2 - 2011.11.16 57 DAYS Wednesday
10.0.3 - 2012.01.31 76 DAYS Tuesday
10.0.4 - 2012.04.10 70 DAYS Tuesday
10.0.5 - 2012.06.11 62 DAYS Monday
10.0.6 - 2012.10.23 134 DAYS Tuesday
10.0.7 - 2012.12.06 44 DAYS Thursday
10.0.8 - 2013.03.28 112 DAYS Thursday
10.0.9 - 2013.07.30 124 DAYS Tuesday
10.1.0 - 2013.12.19 148 DAYS Thursday
10.1.1 - 2014.01.16 28 DAYS Thursday

Following on news of a major visual update to OSX which we'll see for the first time at WWDC a month from now-

9to5mac.com/2014/05/01/os-x-10-10-focus-...-tv-os-in-the-works/

I'm wondering if this new UI shift will have any trickle-down effect on Apple's ProApps. Many of us were toying with the idea that the look of FCPX might have flattened with 10.1. This did not happen, but as OSX itself undergoes a major overhaul, I'd assume Apple's own apps should lead the way on application look and feel.

If that's in the works, then perhaps we wouldn't see the next feature update until October.

After twittering with Philip Hodgetts, he says ProApps uses it's own interface Framework (Lunakit), so in the short term OSX changes won't affect ProApps look and feel. It may filter down eventually, but not to the extent it will hold up any short-term updates.

Of which I still think there'll be one.

If that's in the works, then perhaps we wouldn't see the next feature update until October.

That would make me very happy. A serious performance and bug fix update is what is needed most right now. And based on this solid and stable foundation we could have a major feature update later this year. That's absolutely the way to go.

- Ronny

Okay, so maybe OSX 10.9.3 today and FCPX 10.1.2 tomorrow????

daviddelreal wrote: Okay, so maybe OSX 10.9.3 today and FCPX 10.1.2 tomorrow????

We wish! Perhaps, we'll have to wait for the announcement from WWDC.

ejis1979 wrote: We wish! Perhaps, we'll have to wait for the announcement from WWDC.

I can't see WWDC holding any sway for FCPX development this year. With the MacPro now released, I don't see any hardware announcements charting FCPX development, and no OS announcements made there will be released until the Fall.

I say before WWDC definitely.

Disproportionate Pictures wrote:
...I say before WWDC definitely.

So we have a 4 week window then.

Basically. One of the next 4 Tuesdays, I'll wager.

Disproportionate Pictures wrote: Basically. One of the next 4 Tuesdays, I'll wager.

Now, I'm getting excited and I'm crossing my fingers for that. :woohoo:

ejis1979 wrote:

Now, I'm getting excited and I'm crossing my fingers for that. :woohoo:

Me too, crossing fingers, toes, railroad tracks...

Just want to get my bet in before the day is out:

OS X 10.9.3 released Today (5-6-14)
FCP 10.1.2 released next Tuesday (5-13-14)

tpayton wrote: Just want to get my bet in before the day is out:

OS X 10.9.3 released Today (5-6-14)
FCP 10.1.2 released next Tuesday (5-13-14)

Hmmm....If I were a betting man, I would bet that both will come out next Tuesday (5-13-14).

daviddelreal wrote: Hmmm....If I were a betting man, I would bet that both will come out next Tuesday (5-13-14).

My wager is based on pure conjecture and no solid information or source. What is yours based on?

tpayton wrote: What is yours based on?

Absolutely nothing. Pure guess.

I say by the end of the year.

But seriously, I'm gonna pour a vodka martini, go back to work, and not worry about it...

I think it's a crap shoot which week we might see the update. The last couple weeks have seen Apple doing a spade of software-related stuff towards the end of the day Pacific time, so that's when I keep a sideways glance at the appStore icon.



On a more speculative note- here's something I'd really like to see. I'm going to mock it up into a blog post and then submit a enhancement report to Apple.

With the connected methodology of clips in the timeline, I would like to see some connected behaviours as options.

For example, lets say you have a video clip in the primary storyline, and a connected clip as a title overlay which ends exactly at the end of the shot.

First off, I think it would be great to be able to select more than one clip in the timeline and be able to trim them all (Option + [ or ]). But that's only good for shortening shots.

What would be great is to be able to select 2 or more stacked clips in the timeline and using a contextual drop-down menu, be able to select "Match all", "Match in", or "Match out"

Essentially what this would mean is that if you grab the trim tool and start changing the duration of your primary storyline clip, any other "Matched" clips would mirror those changes without having to select them.

So if you +1:00 to the primary storyline clip, your title also automatically adds 1:00. Same thing if you trim the clip. And the three options of matching allow you to match "in" edit changes, "out" edit changes, or both.

@DP I agree with all of this. One thing I really miss from other NLEs is the ability to grab multiple tracks and extend / shorten in one go. It's a major PITA not having this.