FCPX 10.1.2 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION

Disproportionate Pictures wrote:
BTW, thanks for the shoutout on FCPX Grill! That's two now- but neither time can people remember my name.

FWIW Marcus (!) I was coming down from a terrible flu and could hardly remember my own name.

And apologies for me using your thread to stand on my soapbox. The main thing I get from folks who 'want to like FCPX if only' is it had tracks. Whenever I ask the question 'why do you need them?' the most popular answer is "It's how I'm used to working."

It makes perfect sense you put your time in the flatbed dungeon. Most people haven't so it's hard to have a conversation with people who don't have the perspective as to why tracks even are a thing. You have excellent ideas as far as how roles could and should work. I'm betting you aren't going to be far off, or they will just swipe your good ideas.

My question is, what roles features would it take to never want tracks again?

No worries. My ego can stand it!

I think it's primarily enabling the two things I outline in my blog post- timeline organization and as a basis to enable better mixing tools. Technically you could shunt Roles to a mixer now, without the visual organization part, but I think it would be more convoluted.

But both of those wants come with the caveat that I don't want them interfering with how the timeline currently works as far as clip connections and the magnetic timeline goes.

The fluidity of the FCP X editing is of primary importance.

I'm happy to have my ideas pillaged for the common good.

Nice read Marcus. I wouldn't be surprised to see something along those lines show up at some point. God knows folks have been bugging Apple about it for a while.

OSX UPDATE 10.9.3

Atamanov wrote: OSX UPDATE 10.9.3

Yaaaaaahooooo!!!! Perhaps, soon or later today FCPX update will be next :woohoo:

ejis1979 wrote:

Atamanov wrote: OSX UPDATE 10.9.3

Yaaaaaahooooo!!!! Perhaps, soon or later today FCPX update will be next :woohoo:

I wouldn't start holding my breath or anything... lol

Atamanov wrote: OSX UPDATE 10.9.3

So nice to be able to actually read things on my 4K display finally...

plysat wrote: I wouldn't start holding my breath or anything... lol

Agreed. Rule of Tuesdays.

Disproportionate Pictures wrote: Agreed. Rule of Tuesdays.

Come on Sheldon let's have one of those "anything can happen Thursdays"!

Disproportionate Pictures wrote:

plysat wrote: I wouldn't start holding my breath or anything... lol

Agreed. Rule of Tuesdays.

Hmmm, interesting. Wonder if my theory was correct? What time are FCPX updates usually released?

Just jumped out of my seat but it was Camera Raw update...

daviddelreal wrote: Hmmm, interesting. Wonder if my theory was correct? What time are FCPX updates usually released?

Which theory was that?

It's all over the place. The earliest update was at 3:30am [10.1], and the latest was at 3:30pm [10.1.1], but all feature updates have been before noon Pacific.

So it's Tuesday again.... but I don't have that lucky feeling....

You might be right- we may have a couple more weeks to wait. But as anxious as we are to get our hands on new updates, we should always remember that longer testing means fewer bugs in the end.

Several weeks into my current gig, I will need to be especially careful about upgrading. Case in point- I need to do testing for export to DaVinci Resolve, and last week's 10.9.3 apparently doesn't play well with the current version, so I'll be hanging back for now.

As Adobe and Blackmagic march forward some might become concerned that FCPX feature development is slowing.

BTW I believe Avid MC8 was released as part of their new subscribe/buy model and apparently that was completely under the radar.

If 10.1.2 is released in the next few weeks, and it is a feature update, then it will have already reversed the trend of slowing feature updates.

10.0.0-10.0.1 91 Days
10.0.1-10.0.3 133 Days
10.0.3-10.0.6 266 Days
10.0.6-10.1 428 Days
10.1-10.1.2 152 Days (as of today)

By far, 10.1.2 is still well ahead of the interval time of 266 days for 10.0.6, but past the relatively quick 3 month turnaround for 10.0.3.

But it would be interesting to compare with Adobe PPro CC.
Slow vs competing NLEs?

AVID to my recollection updates only once a year- announced at NAB and as you just pointed out released last week (2 months later)

Premier seems to be on a schedule of 2 updates a year- one is announced at NAB and the other at IBC, and released a few months later in each case. So about 6 months apart, with smaller bug fixes in between.

Which would mean PPro has feature updates every 180 days or so.

Avid updates seem generally unambitious as their base is conservative. Now that they're subscription they can be unambitious more frequently

I think the time between Resolve 10 release and 11's upcoming release will have been about 8 months (240ish days maybe).

EDIT: adding that 428 days between 10.0.6 and 10.1 is long and, if what was posted about FCPX 10.1.2 it may not be a feature update.

AVID is also the most mature of the 3, and it's user base isn't looking for big changes- so there's that.

Resolve major updates get announced at NAB every year, and then they have .X updates throughout the year. I think Resolve 10 only had one major feature updated- the current 10.1.

So Apple isn't doing too badly, though the 428 days waiting for 10.1 was painful

Personally I think the last couple of months for that was FCP X waiting for the MacPro release, but we'll never know that for sure one way or the other.