FCPX 10.1.0 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION

And start the usual flame war some insist on against me, and risk more anonymous negative karma points? Yeah, right. Oh well, what the hell...

I'm not ordering only for FCP X editing, I consider what I'm ordering beyond what FCP X would actually benifit from. Seriously, I currently have 16 GB RAM, and I've never filled up all of that, ever. But, folks do notice more RAM than 8 helps system performance. I've never seen FCP or Motion use up all of my CPUs, or even come close, ever. All that on a 2008 Mac Pro.

I do 3D modeling and very heavy special effects compositing, too. So, I pushed it. I checked and my app developers for my heavy hitting apps said they would be going dual GPU support on the Mac Pro soon (and Mac Pro only).

8 core, 32 RAM, 1 TB flash, D700 6GB, Apple Care (a must for anyone making a living off of this hardware).

Does not come with any keyboard or mouse. Keeping my Magic Trackpad, but need a new Apple full sized keyboard. The one I have is so used, NONE of they keys are visible. Fortunately I can type well enough to not ever look down at it at all. Hate the "min" wireless keyboards. Hate color codes on my keys. I know what key is what, don't need colors to babify me.

Was told that packaging is very minimal. Does come with "Thunderbolt cables" (no clue what that could mean; 1, 2, 3?). Comes with a "Memory Kit". No clue what that is either. Maybe a kit to install slower, older RAM? The native RAM it takes is very specific and unique, but not proprietary. Just not widely used, yet. I don't suspect OWC or Crucial to have third party available for a month or two. They'll need to do enough QA testing first, IMHO. And not sure they'll be much cheaper, considering the actual tech specs, and Apple's pricing.

Also getting Pegasus2 Diskless, and using the four 4TB drives in my current 2008 MP to populate it. Local Apple business rep verified with Promise that it has no drive size limit they are aware of (some do for heat fan and controller board through-put reasons).

And I'm up to just over $8K on the purchase.

Ouch.... Sorry to hear the forum has been unkind. Kind of messed up when someone feels they can't express their opinion without being attacked.

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See I'm doing my bit to get this topic above 2K before launch! :lol:

I would also like to hear what Ben has chosen and his rational.

I'm still thinking six core with upgraded graphics, though the way the Aussie dollar is falling it might end up being a MacMini!

Seanus I think you nailed my config as well. 6 core, d700, 32gb... Now to find some gigs to support my spending habits.

To be fair, this discussion should probably be moved over to the MacPro Catch-All Thread; since it will survive after we put a stake in this one. And it will be helpful to have a single thread where we talk about benchmarks and stuff as they come out.

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Exactly what we need here...

Well, in the spirit of moving away from Mac Pro discussion and karma thus returning to the original topic, how long are we since the last fcpx update? I think this marks the longest gap between updates since the 10.0 release.

Updated my post, so y'all know what I ordered. What do y'all think?

That looks lovely, I will say They only time I have sen FCPX use a HUGE amount of RAM was doing a project Event duplication when I migrated some events to my Pegasus (Which I bought based on this thread ) FCPX usage went from around 3-4 GB up to 17 GB. Other than that, esp with Mavericks memory compression in effect, I don't start hitting above 16 unless I have more than one creative app open at a time. I'm not much of a photoshop user which I hear can take massive amounts of RAM.

I like your config, 1TB on the start is more than I would need, but thats because I'm used to my macbook air with 128. My hakintosh also has 128. For me I think the stock 256 would be fine, but the PCIe speeds would be tempting to use as a small scratch drive maybe on a second partition.

I think your Pegasus Diskless is a good migration path. Thanks for sharing!

10.0.0 - 2011.06.21 Tuesday 6:00am
10.0.1 - 2011.09.20 (91 DAYS) Tuesday 8:00am
10.0.2 - 2011.11.16 (57 DAYS) Wednesday 1:30pm
10.0.3 - 2012.01.31 (76 DAYS) Tu 5:30am
10.0.4 - 2012.04.10 (70 DAYS) Tuesday 11:30am
10.0.5 - 2012.06.11 (62 DAYS) Monday 2:00pm
10.0.6 - 2012.10.23 (134 DAYS) Tuesday 11:30am
10.0.7 - 2012.12.06 (44 DAYS) Thursday 10:30am
10.0.8 - 2013.03.28 (112 DAYS) Thursday 10:30am
10.0.9 - 2013.07.30 (124 DAYS) Tuesday 1:30pm
10.1.0 - 2013.12.19 (148 DAYS) Thursday


Total days between each feature release-

10.0.0-10.0.1 - 91 DAYS
10.0.1-10.0.3 - 127 DAYS
10.0.3-10.0.6 - 266 DAYS
10.0.6-10.1.0 - 428 DAYS

I don't suspect OWC or Crucial to have third party available for a month or two. They'll need to do enough QA testing first, IMHO. And not sure they'll be much cheaper, considering the actual tech specs, and Apple's pricing.

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OWC already has memory available:
eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Mac-Pro-M...13.dec18#1866-memory

The price I saw pop up today is that Apple will charge you $1,200 for the full 64GB of RAM, while OWC has it priced at $895.

The spread isn't as wide as it used to be- I'll probably just get the RAM from Apple.

"I like your config, 1TB on the start is more than I would need..."

I currently have a 2TB system drive, and it was over 3/4 full two weeks ago. Logic plugin (Native Instruments and such) add-ons, Aperture library, iTunes library, etc, etc. Just huge. But I've worked very hard on trimming it down and moving things to a 6TB USB 3.0 RAID in preparation. Have to REALLY figure out how to have a system drive that is only a tiny 1TB large. Geez, do y'all not have your whole album collection from 1960 to 2013 in your iTunes library? And every photo you ever took since then in an Aperture, too? Yep, having to move lots of stuff to external storage, and configure the apps for it. My personal demonic dilemma. Help me Ozzy, you're my only hope!

$475 vs $470? I'll go with the Apple RAM. I think you'll have to replace everything in the MP to do the upgrade. I could be wrong.

iTunes an iPhoto are the big ones, but they can both be outbound to another drive. I plan on only keeping Applications (and the OS) on my drive.

I'm also going to start the machine clean, and NOT install FCP7 on it. I haven't had to open Legacy in about 6 months, and those jobs are just getting farther and farther in the rear view window...

Ran "FCS Remover" four months ago to remove FCS.
Never looked back.

Will international stores start going down soon or will it all happen at the same time in the morning?

I think all the stores go down at the same time.

I just want to say this week has been hell on my sleeping patterns... I should be editing right now but Keep thinking about 10.1 or a new mac pro, or comparing mac pro to what I could do to upgrade my hackintosh just a bit to work with 10.1.....

Also I am beginning to think the 10.1 update will be free. mainly from a comment about iMovie compatibility. The new iMovie will not work with the current fcpx. If iMovie is supposed to be a quick cut solution, then the interface should probably be backwards compatible a bit if there was going to be a difference between a paid upgrade or not. Since they are targeting 10.1, they must expect a quick upgrade to 10.1. free is easy to make quick.

thefluentone wrote: I just want to say this week has been hell on my sleeping patterns... I should be editing right now but Keep thinking about 10.1 or a new mac pro, or comparing mac pro to what I could do to upgrade my hackintosh just a bit to work with 10.1.....

Also I am beginning to think the 10.1 update will be free. mainly from a comment about iMovie compatibility. The new iMovie will not work with the current fcpx. If iMovie is supposed to be a quick cut solution, then the interface should probably be backwards compatible a bit if there was going to be a difference between a paid upgrade or not. Since they are targeting 10.1, they must expect a quick upgrade to 10.1. free is easy to make quick.

I also think the update will be free.

I agree with that. I have a mac mini server which is the only FCP 7 machine I have now. It's used only for reconnecting and converting projects. The shocking thing is how it feels just as zippy as when it was run on mac pros of yesteryear. That said, transcoding before an edit is now a thing of the past.