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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 02 Jul 2013 12:39 #28073

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And I'll repeat this again, during NAB Show 2013, at their off-site briefings, Apple did tell us that more audio support, and collaboration, are on the board, are being worked on, but they are complex and Apple is taking the time to do them right, rather than slap out some half-assed solution. Apple is super aware of what we want, and what we need, and are working on things. And, they made clear they take the time to do them right, not race the clock to get them out fast.

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 02 Jul 2013 12:44 #28075

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Thanks Ben for reiterating that. It's good to know they are being worked on.

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 02 Jul 2013 12:50 #28078

+ 1 for that, Ben.

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 03:49 #28119

Hmmm....

Check out the "Presenting Companies" at the bottom of the page:

invite.blackmagicdesign.com/event2013/

Thursday July 25th, eh?

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 06:19 #28120

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Hmmm....

Check out the "Presenting Companies" at the bottom of the page:

invite.blackmagicdesign.com/event2013/

Thursday July 25th, eh?

Interesting that it shows the FCPX icon and not the Apple icon...

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 12:22 #28144

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Interesting that it shows the FCPX icon and not the Apple icon...

Early last year Blackmagic had a road show in NYC as well. Apple was there. They did an FCPX presentation and had a table right next to Avid. I was hoping this was a sign that Apple was again going to start making appearance to promote FCPX. Apparently not. They have done the Blackmagic road show before.

One thing I would like to see is direct CinemaDNG support in FCPX. This road show would be the right time to show it off. I'll be at NYC show so all you LA folks will probably spoil it for me. ;)

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 13:30 #28148

That would be my guess- Blackmagic has been very cozy with Apple and FCPX. Native CinemaDNG has to be coming down the pipe.

My thinking at the moment is that if we don't see an FCPX update before this event on July 25th, then we won't see a feature release until the one timed with the MacPro. That's presuming Mavericks and the MacPro launch in the Sept/Oct timeframe.

But if those things launch LATE in the year (Nov) there's a bit more time for a Summer update, either feature or maintenance.

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 13:50 #28149

It's also been veeeerrryyy long since a feature-update. Very curious to what Apple has in store.

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 14:41 #28151

Just a thought that hit my brain... Man Apple has spoiled us with so many updates over the last 2 years. It used to be an update a year and now were all bummed that is't been around 4 months and no update!!! Perspective I guess. But I'm with ya mates... Give me my update of cool stuff now!!!

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 15:09 #28155

Just a thought that hit my brain... Man Apple has spoiled us with so many updates over the last 2 years. It used to be an update a year and now were all bummed that is't been around 4 months and no update!!! Perspective I guess. But I'm with ya mates... Give me my update of cool stuff now!!!

True, on the other hand, FCPX is an program that REALLY could use updates when it arrived, and it still can.
Remember, when FCPX released, it was an NLE that contained no XML or any way of getting your editing data out of it, no relinking function, no way of only exporting a piece of a timeline, no copying/pasting of attributes, ... For instance, the work we do now with FCPX literally would not have been possible without some feature updates in 10.0.6.
Yes, I love it, yes, I have switched about 100 percent of my work to it, but yes it also needs much more work (I have a bullet point list of about 40-50 things, personally).

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 15:16 #28156

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the updates should slow down. I too think there are plenty of places for improvement. I was just commenting on how quickly our Pavlovian reconditioning kicked in. Every thee months the bell would ring and we were delivered what we craved. Now it's been for months and were salivating all over the place waiting for our treat!!

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 15:21 #28158

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I don't see any reason why they couldn't take a similar approach when Retina was released.

Feature update can happen soon, Dual GPU improvements update released when MacPro ships.

The only reason I can see for a longer release time is if they hare having challenges implementing new features independent of the MacPro or... they have some yet to be revealed marketing strategy that they'd prefer to happen all at once.

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 15:24 #28159

Now it's been four months and were salivating all over the place waiting for our treat!!

You just made me roll under my desk with laughter. Thank you!

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 15:27 #28162

Well... Development has slowed down a bit. Interval time is up year 1 vs year 2. Fewer Feature releases and much further apart. But that's to be expected as the software matures.

Technically there's no way the next update should be another maintenance release (as that would be 3 in a row), but then again it could be largely maintenance with CinemaDNG support like the Log C support in 10.0.8- that is if they're putting all their feature weight behind the MacPro timed release.

Very hard to figure what we'll see.

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 15:40 #28163

RAW CinemaDNG support would be great, I agree. No more feature updates until some nasty bugs get sorted out first, if you please.

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 21:36 #28181

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We are calling the last two updates bug fix updates, but new features were added, too. Not huge ones, not a lot, but some past bug fixes have include new functions and new native codec support. I can't tell you how very much Cmd-Opt-[1-6] has really helped me out. So, that sort of blurs the line between bug fix and feature update a tad. Just saying...

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 21:40 #28182

Apple is the one who says the latest two releases hadn't new features, check their release notes, just the 10.0.6 and 10.0.3 says new features.

support.apple.com/kb/ht4589
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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 03 Jul 2013 22:05 #28187

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I never said anything about Apple's personal claims, which technically don't label releases as ether "bug fix" or "new feature" updates blatantly. But new functions and codec support are written there in most bug releases. That's all I'm saying.

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 10 Jul 2013 18:15 #28387

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So here we are.

10.0.0 - 2011.06.21 Tu*
10.0.1 - 2011.09.20 [91 DAYS] Tu
10.0.2 - 2011.11.16 [57 DAYS W
10.0.3 - 2012.01.31 [76 DAYS] Tu*
10.0.4 - 2012.04.10 [70 DAYS] Tu
10.0.5 - 2012.06.11 [62 DAYS] M
10.0.6 - 2012.10.23 [134 DAYS] Tu*
10.0.7 - 2012.12.06 [44 DAYS] Th
10.0.8 - 2013.03.28 [112 DAYS] Th

* Feature releases

Adobe have just announced an update to the Creative Cloud version of Premiere Pro less than 30 days after launch. It looks like more than a maintenance update, some would say less than a feature update:

blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/07/ppro...uly-2013-update.html

Given has no need to consider what the other 'A's do, I don't think they'll change their plans. I think that Adobe wouldn't have updated so quickly if it hadn't been for the quick evolution of Final Cut Pro X.

@Alex4D

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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION 10 Jul 2013 18:54 #28389

I think we can assume the major releases are marked by a new documentation version. As of now, the online FCP X manual (and PDF) are showing 10.0.6 as the version.

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