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FCPX 10.0.9 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION

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02 Jul 2013 12:39 #28073 by BenB
And I'll repeat this again, during NAB Show 2013, at their off-site briefings, Apple did tell us that more audio support, and collaboration, are on the board, are being worked on, but they are complex and Apple is taking the time to do them right, rather than slap out some half-assed solution. Apple is super aware of what we want, and what we need, and are working on things. And, they made clear they take the time to do them right, not race the clock to get them out fast.

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02 Jul 2013 12:44 #28075 by Dave_EP
Thanks Ben for reiterating that. It's good to know they are being worked on.

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02 Jul 2013 12:50 #28078 by ronny courtens
+ 1 for that, Ben.

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03 Jul 2013 03:49 #28119 by Disproportionate Pictures
Hmmm....

Check out the "Presenting Companies" at the bottom of the page:

invite.blackmagicdesign.com/event2013/

Thursday July 25th, eh?

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03 Jul 2013 06:19 #28120 by Julian

Disproportionate Pictures wrote: Hmmm....

Check out the "Presenting Companies" at the bottom of the page:

invite.blackmagicdesign.com/event2013/

Thursday July 25th, eh?


Interesting that it shows the FCPX icon and not the Apple icon...

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03 Jul 2013 12:22 #28144 by cseeman

Julian wrote:
Interesting that it shows the FCPX icon and not the Apple icon...


Early last year Blackmagic had a road show in NYC as well. Apple was there. They did an FCPX presentation and had a table right next to Avid. I was hoping this was a sign that Apple was again going to start making appearance to promote FCPX. Apparently not. They have done the Blackmagic road show before.

One thing I would like to see is direct CinemaDNG support in FCPX. This road show would be the right time to show it off. I'll be at NYC show so all you LA folks will probably spoil it for me. ;)

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03 Jul 2013 13:30 #28148 by Disproportionate Pictures
That would be my guess- Blackmagic has been very cozy with Apple and FCPX. Native CinemaDNG has to be coming down the pipe.

My thinking at the moment is that if we don't see an FCPX update before this event on July 25th, then we won't see a feature release until the one timed with the MacPro. That's presuming Mavericks and the MacPro launch in the Sept/Oct timeframe.

But if those things launch LATE in the year (Nov) there's a bit more time for a Summer update, either feature or maintenance.

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03 Jul 2013 13:50 #28149 by sidderke
It's also been veeeerrryyy long since a feature-update. Very curious to what Apple has in store.

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03 Jul 2013 14:41 #28151 by m2dpost
Just a thought that hit my brain... Man Apple has spoiled us with so many updates over the last 2 years. It used to be an update a year and now were all bummed that is't been around 4 months and no update!!! Perspective I guess. But I'm with ya mates... Give me my update of cool stuff now!!!

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03 Jul 2013 15:09 #28155 by sidderke

m2dpost wrote: Just a thought that hit my brain... Man Apple has spoiled us with so many updates over the last 2 years. It used to be an update a year and now were all bummed that is't been around 4 months and no update!!! Perspective I guess. But I'm with ya mates... Give me my update of cool stuff now!!!


True, on the other hand, FCPX is an program that REALLY could use updates when it arrived, and it still can.
Remember, when FCPX released, it was an NLE that contained no XML or any way of getting your editing data out of it, no relinking function, no way of only exporting a piece of a timeline, no copying/pasting of attributes, ... For instance, the work we do now with FCPX literally would not have been possible without some feature updates in 10.0.6.
Yes, I love it, yes, I have switched about 100 percent of my work to it, but yes it also needs much more work (I have a bullet point list of about 40-50 things, personally).

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03 Jul 2013 15:16 #28156 by m2dpost
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the updates should slow down. I too think there are plenty of places for improvement. I was just commenting on how quickly our Pavlovian reconditioning kicked in. Every thee months the bell would ring and we were delivered what we craved. Now it's been for months and were salivating all over the place waiting for our treat!!

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03 Jul 2013 15:21 #28158 by cseeman
I don't see any reason why they couldn't take a similar approach when Retina was released.

Feature update can happen soon, Dual GPU improvements update released when MacPro ships.

The only reason I can see for a longer release time is if they hare having challenges implementing new features independent of the MacPro or... they have some yet to be revealed marketing strategy that they'd prefer to happen all at once.

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03 Jul 2013 15:24 #28159 by ronny courtens
Now it's been four months and were salivating all over the place waiting for our treat!!

You just made me roll under my desk with laughter. Thank you!

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03 Jul 2013 15:27 - 03 Jul 2013 15:42 #28162 by Disproportionate Pictures
Well... Development has slowed down a bit. Interval time is up year 1 vs year 2. Fewer Feature releases and much further apart. But that's to be expected as the software matures.

Technically there's no way the next update should be another maintenance release (as that would be 3 in a row), but then again it could be largely maintenance with CinemaDNG support like the Log C support in 10.0.8- that is if they're putting all their feature weight behind the MacPro timed release.

Very hard to figure what we'll see.
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03 Jul 2013 15:40 #28163 by ronny courtens
RAW CinemaDNG support would be great, I agree. No more feature updates until some nasty bugs get sorted out first, if you please.

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03 Jul 2013 21:36 - 03 Jul 2013 21:37 #28181 by BenB
We are calling the last two updates bug fix updates, but new features were added, too. Not huge ones, not a lot, but some past bug fixes have include new functions and new native codec support. I can't tell you how very much Cmd-Opt-[1-6] has really helped me out. So, that sort of blurs the line between bug fix and feature update a tad. Just saying...
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03 Jul 2013 21:40 #28182 by canelson
Apple is the one who says the latest two releases hadn't new features, check their release notes, just the 10.0.6 and 10.0.3 says new features.

support.apple.com/kb/ht4589

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03 Jul 2013 22:05 - 03 Jul 2013 22:06 #28187 by BenB
I never said anything about Apple's personal claims, which technically don't label releases as ether "bug fix" or "new feature" updates blatantly. But new functions and codec support are written there in most bug releases. That's all I'm saying.
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10 Jul 2013 18:15 #28387 by alex4D

Disproportionate Pictures wrote: So here we are.

10.0.0 - 2011.06.21 Tu*
10.0.1 - 2011.09.20 [91 DAYS] Tu
10.0.2 - 2011.11.16 [57 DAYS W
10.0.3 - 2012.01.31 [76 DAYS] Tu*
10.0.4 - 2012.04.10 [70 DAYS] Tu
10.0.5 - 2012.06.11 [62 DAYS] M
10.0.6 - 2012.10.23 [134 DAYS] Tu*
10.0.7 - 2012.12.06 [44 DAYS] Th
10.0.8 - 2013.03.28 [112 DAYS] Th

* Feature releases


Adobe have just announced an update to the Creative Cloud version of Premiere Pro less than 30 days after launch. It looks like more than a maintenance update, some would say less than a feature update:

blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/07/ppro...uly-2013-update.html

Given has no need to consider what the other 'A's do, I don't think they'll change their plans. I think that Adobe wouldn't have updated so quickly if it hadn't been for the quick evolution of Final Cut Pro X.

@Alex4D

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10 Jul 2013 18:54 #28389 by kyletron2000
I think we can assume the major releases are marked by a new documentation version. As of now, the online FCP X manual (and PDF) are showing 10.0.6 as the version.

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