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FCPX 10.0.6 Pre Release Discussion Thread

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24 Sep 2012 17:50 #14371 by BenB
Ty Webb: You take drugs, Danny?
Danny Noonan: Every day.
Ty Webb: Good. Then what's your problem?
Danny Noonan: I don't know...
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24 Sep 2012 17:52 #14372 by waternyc
Life is a box of chocolates....
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24 Sep 2012 18:26 #14378 by cseeman

waternyc wrote: Life is a box of chocolates....


But I want to avoid the Crunchy Frog.
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24 Sep 2012 19:01 #14382 by waternyc
waternyc wrote:
Life is a box of chocolates....


Cseeman wrote: But I want to avoid the Crunchy Frog.


Response: My point exactly....you can't fight the funk!
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24 Sep 2012 20:48 #14386 by BenB

waternyc wrote: Life is [like] a box of chocolates....


You never know which one has the roofie in it.
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25 Sep 2012 14:03 #14413 by Disproportionate Pictures
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25 Sep 2012 14:12 #14414 by robertdee
It's like Waiting for Godot.
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25 Sep 2012 18:15 #14430 by Dawar
But Godot never came !
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25 Sep 2012 19:45 #14434 by TrixTrax9000
Yeah, but if he had... it probably would have been on a Tuesday.
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25 Sep 2012 20:07 #14436 by sconnor99
The longer the wait, the bigger the update - hopefully.
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25 Sep 2012 20:12 #14438 by cseeman
If the wait is any longer it could be DVD distributed. :ohmy: ;)
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25 Sep 2012 21:11 #14441 by Seanus
Anyone want to predict how many pages of drivel this topic will grow to by the time the update DOES arrive? I'm pushing for 15. :P

Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011
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25 Sep 2012 21:14 #14442 by Disproportionate Pictures
I'll take intelligent speculation instead, but that's just me!
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25 Sep 2012 21:24 - 25 Sep 2012 21:28 #14444 by robertdee
Seeing as it hasn't come we can let speculations run wild. Don't know if I've mentioned this but I'd like to see Apple integrating Siri so we can have dialogue analysed automatically for keywords and transcripts. I'd also like the ability for it to analyse waveforms to place smart cuts a predetermined amount before audio that peaks over a certain amount. Both of these are handy for chopping up dialogue, particularly interviews.

Similarly, the ability to detect cuts based on large pixel differentiation between frames would be useful for automatically chopping up video files when you have to recut master movs that clients don't have the fcpx/fcp/etc project files.

I may be looking for the magic "edit" button here...
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26 Sep 2012 01:28 #14451 by Disproportionate Pictures
I'd be immensely surprised if some sort of auto-transcription isn't in the picture for a future version, since it fit so well with FCPXs metadata-centric focus. I'd also like to see some implementation of face detection. It's reliability is spotty in iPhoto, but as Terrance & Philip postulated in one of their podcasts, there's likely to be less variation of age, lighting circumstances, etc in a given video production than a persons photo library that spans years.

The other area I'd like to see Apple explore with future updates is new input devices. Though I think we're a ways off from a full touch interface for an NLE (and I don't mean reaching out and touching the screen- rather a touch keyboard), it would be interesting to see Apple release an app that uses an iPad to extend the traditional keyboard in areas where it might be useful. Sliders when mixing. A touch colour board while colour correcting.

And if Apple could release it's own iSlate for logging; where on-set metadata is seamlessly translated to FCPX, dramatically reducing "prep time" for editorial, I think it would be a real boon for productions of all sizes.

As for the pre-announced features, only MXF support seems cut and dried. As far as I know, there's no magic that can have you playing back RED RAW files in any NLE without a REDROCKET card, so native RED support is only a half-solution. "Dual Viewers" could mean exactly what we think, reinstatement of a program/preview option, or be something entirely different. And "Multichannel Audio Editing" is similarly vague.

Although I am a bit disappointed each week that passes without an update, that's only curiosity. In another way each week that passes has me more excited for whatever is released.
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26 Sep 2012 03:48 #14461 by dgwvideo
I'll be content at this point if a few bigs are fixed...

---Saving a still frame from the timeline gives a compressor error after the 5th or 6th time. Restarting FCPX fixes it at least for another 5 or 6 times.
---Saving a still frame from the timeline that needs rendering won't save until you manually render it.
---Show reference waveforms for audio in preferences doesn't seem to work. I have waveforms on every clip in every project regardless of this setting.

AND, please let's be able to highlight a group of clips in the timeline and export only them. The workarounds are clumsy.

Creating history....one edit at a time !
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26 Sep 2012 06:25 #14462 by sidderke

Disproportionate Pictures wrote: As for the pre-announced features, only MXF support seems cut and dried. As far as I know, there's no magic that can have you playing back RED RAW files in any NLE without a REDROCKET card, so native RED support is only a half-solution. "Dual Viewers" could mean exactly what we think, reinstatement of a program/preview option, or be something entirely different. And "Multichannel Audio Editing" is similarly vague.

Although I am a bit disappointed each week that passes without an update, that's only curiosity. In another way each week that passes has me more excited for whatever is released.


In premiere you have been able (for 3 or so versions now?) been able to just drop RED RAW files and play them back without rocket card. No, not at full resolution, rather 1/4th to 1/8th of the original resolution, but that's in a lot of cases enough.
I still expect from Apple that If they now are about 2 years behind in support RED, I hope they have a good implementation, performance wise, and able to maybe do something with the automatic proxies that they can create. If it's a half baked solution, after running 2 years Behind,
It's been about a year and a half that Apple released FCPX and in the current landscape with competition you can only say so long it's a 1.0 release.
People have a long list of things that they want/need, some very basic (in/out points on the timeline) and the last feature-update is from the end of january.
The Fact that it takes so long, has me hopeful that they are making it a very fully featured update.
Let's see what happens, I'm curious.
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26 Sep 2012 09:27 #14464 by robertdee
OK, after accidentally deleting a project this morning and losing a day's work, I'd REALLY like some kind of proper back up solution for projects. Yes, I know about time machine but that's impractical when you have 10 terabytes of data across multiple hard drives. :angry:
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26 Sep 2012 12:54 #14467 by sconnor99

robertdee wrote: OK, after accidentally deleting a project this morning and losing a day's work, I'd REALLY like some kind of proper back up solution for projects. Yes, I know about time machine but that's impractical when you have 10 terabytes of data across multiple hard drives. :angry:


Do you mean the project file or the entire project?
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26 Sep 2012 13:10 #14468 by screendor
I'm trialing Digital Rebellion's ProVersioner that makes redundant copies of Project files (not events). So far, seems pretty great. (I did this manually before--duplicating projects onto a sep drive).

FWIW, I manually make duplicates of events on a separate RAID 5 drive for extra insurance. Plus, I hold onto the data from field off-loading until I have to erase it.

So, with ProVersioner, I have backups of projects and then maintain duplicates of events.
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