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06 Sep 2016 18:24 #79665 by ronny courtens
Indeed, an adjustment layer can be used as a fixed bar where you can add markers that won't move with any clips.

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06 Sep 2016 18:29 #79666 by MsJustine
Indeed, but the clips are all connected to the primary storyline, and that is a huge problem.

If you change the connection point to the marker, this creates multiple primary storylines, so that you have much more freedom to edit.

Markers could become the one thing that pushes FCPX into a new dimension, it takes magnetic timeline editing to a far more powerful state.

You should still be able to connect to primary storyline, but why? That is just stupid and lazy...It creates more problems than it solves...My idea quite frankly shocked me when I realized what this means...

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06 Sep 2016 18:33 #79667 by ronny courtens
Having fixed markers would be a nice extra, but in no way does this take away the fact that connected clips should be attached to the storyline clips. That is exactly what makes FCP X so powerful, and it's something no other NLE has.

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06 Sep 2016 18:33 #79668 by davechap
Replied by davechap on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3
So you want... track based editing?

Here's the deal: the primary storyline works on more levels than just a backbone to a story to build onto. It's not wrong to say something drives the story forward. It's not always a main video track. Sometimes it's an audio track. In this case, the audio is in the primary storyline and video clips are connected.

You can even put a gap clip in the primary storyline (with markers that are locked in time... To the gap clip) and audio and video tracks are free to move around as connected clips.

I see genius in this method. The primary storyline has a ton of workflows that aren't possible in track-based editors.

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06 Sep 2016 18:34 #79669 by ronny courtens
Agreed 100%.

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06 Sep 2016 18:39 #79670 by MsJustine
Heavens no, no track based editor...never, I hope, no...

I am not suggesting that markers are the only option, but I have found it would have been mighty useful to be able to connect to something other than the primary storyline, the marker serves many functions, and as an additional connection point helps solves a few frustrations.

No question the power of FCPX is mighty, and yes everything you say is valid, I am not disputing that, look it would help me as an editor, maybe not for you, it was just a thought I had, about what was bugging me, and having multiple ways to connect clips is better than 1 option only! That is all

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06 Sep 2016 18:56 - 06 Sep 2016 18:56 #79671 by drewboyd
Replied by drewboyd on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3
Further from Larry Jordan: "And, this may come as a surprise, but Apple has a big announcement planned for Wednesday. So if ever there was a weekend where NOTHING is happening, this is it. Next week, the lid should blow off - with plenty to talk about. But, not today. Sigh... "

I could be wrong but I've not known him to report on either iPhone/consumer technology or be freewheeling with hyperbole or enthusiasm about release dates - maybe there are some tea leaves to read here.

One thing is for certain with FCPX, the only certainty is uncertainty. I remember when it was said on here "absolutely no Friday releases" and we received a Friday release the same week. So who knows anymore?

Hope its soon and happy cutting.
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06 Sep 2016 19:01 #79672 by waternyc
Replied by waternyc on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3
Some kind of fixed layer adjuster with marker customization sounds cool. But it would be great to click this on or off...

I really just want full marker customization and some kind of innate FCPX solution for the Blank Adjustment Layer

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06 Sep 2016 19:02 #79673 by drewboyd
Replied by drewboyd on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3
This might be some conspiracy level ish, but:

Who remembers FCP Studio 2 packaging?


And the invite for tomorrow?

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06 Sep 2016 19:03 #79674 by davechap
Replied by davechap on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3
When and where did Larry Jordan say this?

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06 Sep 2016 19:04 #79675 by waternyc
Replied by waternyc on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3
it sounds more like a play on the iPhone "7"

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06 Sep 2016 19:05 #79676 by waternyc
Replied by waternyc on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3
and that is just the shape of the top of the apple.....in bokeh

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06 Sep 2016 19:10 - 06 Sep 2016 19:10 #79678 by drewboyd
Replied by drewboyd on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3

When and where did Larry Jordan say this?


Weekly newsletter, September 5
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06 Sep 2016 19:21 - 06 Sep 2016 19:22 #79679 by drewboyd
Replied by drewboyd on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3

it sounds more like a play on the iPhone "7"

Totally. I don't think anyone would dispute the iPhone 7 being the focus tomorrow. But I would neither expect only the iPhone, Watch, iOS/MacOS nor be surprised if FCPX, MacBook Pro, Mac Pro update was announced more formally, after both the augmented recent customer outreach effort (Summit) last year and the long gap between last updates.

waternyc wrote: and that is just the shape of the top of the apple.....in bokeh


Right, and a potential callback to another product. They are capable of many things, of which duality of message is one. Anyway, the level of scrutiny on these boards doesn't really amount to anything more than idle gossip. Fun to keep a sense of adventurism.
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06 Sep 2016 19:34 #79681 by damiangrady
Look like we got this party started again!

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06 Sep 2016 19:55 #79682 by waternyc
Replied by waternyc on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3
Yeah, I totally agree with the duality and Apple's mysticism, but I just feel like its been a long time since we "the now spoiled ones" have experienced a paradigm shift from Apple. I'd like to have one soon...its almost like an addiction..... I guess we're left with gossip and an iPhone camera with a protruding lens (a little off topic-but can be relevant) I don't think Jobs would have allowed this...but anyway...lets see what they'll give us tomorrow - its always exciting.....

(I don't want a "protruding lens update in FCPX" if it means waiting a little bit longer)

PS always a devote Apple fan and business user of course....

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06 Sep 2016 20:37 #79683 by cseeman
Replied by cseeman on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3
Could be the new camera in the iPhone 7 though. 4K video and on the 7+ dual lenses for the ability to use wide and telephoto. Of course it could FCP for iOS. Now wouldn't that get some people cranky.

drewboyd wrote: Further from Larry Jordan: "And, this may come as a surprise, but Apple has a big announcement planned for Wednesday. So if ever there was a weekend where NOTHING is happening, this is it. Next week, the lid should blow off - with plenty to talk about. But, not today. Sigh... "

I could be wrong but I've not known him to report on either iPhone/consumer technology or be freewheeling with hyperbole or enthusiasm about release dates - maybe there are some tea leaves to read here.

One thing is for certain with FCPX, the only certainty is uncertainty. I remember when it was said on here "absolutely no Friday releases" and we received a Friday release the same week. So who knows anymore?

Hope its soon and happy cutting.

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06 Sep 2016 21:35 #79685 by ButchM
Replied by ButchM on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3

cseeman wrote: 4K video and on the 7+ dual lenses for the ability to use wide and telephoto.


Naw … side-by-side dual cameras wouldn’t necessarily be for wide to telephoto ... more like stereoscopic 3-D ... maybe? :unsure:

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06 Sep 2016 21:45 #79686 by cseeman
Replied by cseeman on topic Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3

ButchM wrote:

cseeman wrote: 4K video and on the 7+ dual lenses for the ability to use wide and telephoto.


Naw … side-by-side dual cameras wouldn’t necessarily be for wide to telephoto ... more like stereoscopic 3-D ... maybe? :unsure:

I believe there's a Samsung phone that already has this feature and I think there's been speculation that Apple will do the same (but maybe better)

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06 Sep 2016 23:29 - 06 Sep 2016 23:41 #79688 by Steve McGarrigle
The Xiaomi Redmi Pro, a Chinese smartphone ( not well known in the U.S. ) uses dual cameras to create/simulate shallow depth of field and bokeh. It could be that the iPhone is adopting a similar technology, hence the bokeh in the picture and the cryptic clue of "See you on the 7th."
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