FCPX 10.1.0 PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION

Chazfest wrote: For what it's worth, I just missed a call from Apple's 'business team', from a rep wanting to speak to me about the "new Mac Pro, as it's out this month...". Whilst this is nothing new I'm itself, it's intriguing that the call came through today. I registered our studio's interest about the Mac Pro when it was announced at WWDC, and they said they'd be in touch when it's released, to arrange a day for a couple of our editors to go in store for a 'private session' and put the machine through it's paces.
I've called back, and the rep who rang is busy, so he'll call back later today apparently. I'll keep you posted...

If you can get a hold of them, see if they can do any configuration pricing like my rep did a few weeks back. It would be nice to have some confirmation on the figures I was given.

That's really interesting Alex. Of course, this could be code groundwork for a future update, but it would be nice to see mixing evolve in X for this release.

It's absolutely going to have to be tied to Roles in some regard, as that's the defacto organizational element for A/V in the timeline (replacing the legacy function of tracks).

There doesn't seem to be much indication that we'll see any big leaps in timeline organization for this release. And without that visual structure, I'm frankly stumped as to how mixing is going to make sense.

any interesting code search results for words like "curves", "colour wheels", etc?

I also got that same call. It was a little pointless as all I got out of them was the same Dec 13th ship as mentioned elsewhere. Nothing new about configurations, pricing, anything at all. I'm wondering if there might be actually something to that idea about holding off for the funeral. Like everyone else had their sales calls set up and what not for yesterday and had to completely back track at the last minute. Kinda felt that way talking to them...

I just spoke to an apple representative and he had an interesting reaction on my remark: "The apple website states the mac pro is coming in december" See his reaction ON CAMERA here:

For audio I'm hoping proper round tripping with logicX. I use many "complex" compound clips in my edits and xml export doesn't seem to work for those. Would be great news when logic and fcp are tightly integrated!

Any use of the word 'wheel' in the Flexo library of Final Cut Pro X 10.0.9 and iMovie 10.0.1 (that bit of each app which implements Final Cut Pro X) is associated with mice scroll wheels only e.g:

-[FF video scopesHistogramView removefrom Superview]
-[FF video scopesHistogramView setFrameSize:]
-[FF video scopesHistogramView setzoom Factor:]
-[FF video scopesHistogramView mouseDown:]
-[FF video scopesHistogramView rightMouseDown:]
-[FF video scopesHistogramView scrollWheel:]

'Curve' in FCPX 10.0.9: 1,400
'Curve' in the unreleased FCPX in iMovie 10.0.1: 1,775

Investigating 'curve' further…

'FFCurveEditorlayer' in FCPX 10.0.9: 201
'FFCurveEditorlayer' in the unreleased FCPX in iMovie 10.0.1: 264

There are some interesting additions when it comes to editing curves. These are all new:

-[FFCurveEditorLayer clearSelectedKeyframes]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer selectKeyframesInRect:]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer selectKeyframesfrom Time:toTime:]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer updateSelectionLocation:]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer setSelection:]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer setSelectedKeyframes:]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer selectRangeKeys:]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer offsetKeyframesInValueInDb:maxTime:time:valueInDb:]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer offsetKeyframesInTime:delta:]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer offsetKeyframesInValue:delta:]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer shouldHandleNudge]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer shouldHandleCopy]
-[FFCurveEditorLayer shouldHandlePaste]

'TimelineCurveEditor' in FCPX 10.0.9: 4
'TimelineCurveEditor' in the unreleased FCPX in iMovie 10.0.1: 16

The 12 extra mentions of 'TimelineCurveEditor' support accessibility - useful for assistive hardware and software (and scripting):

FFTimelineCurveEditorPartBackgroundAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartKeyframeAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartSegmentAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartFadeInAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartFadeOutAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartNameAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartMarqueeLeftAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartMarqueeRightAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartCurveAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartDiscloseAccessibilityDescription
FFTimelineCurveEditorPartUnknownAccessibilityDescription

@Alex4D

Excellent. I'm sure we'd all like to see better keyframe control/editing in 10.1.

I guess I was hoping for a curves editor as it relates to Colour correction.

Stupid iPhoto update!!!

Vlastavision wrote: Stupid iPhoto update!!!

Just got a Tweet Deck update.
Ahh, I see, they're updating their apps for improved iPhoto and new Tweet Deck integration in FCPX. :lol:

Promise just started shipping the Pegasus2 Thunderbolt 2.0 RAID line. They're selling in the online Apple store now.
store.apple.com/us/search/Pegasus2# !

The low end is the R4 with 8 TB for $1499. Wow!

My old iMixx VideoCube storage modules were $2500 for "1 hour" of storage. They consisted of 2X 4 GB drives in RAID 0 config for video and a separate 500 MB (yes that's MB) for audio storage. Of course that was 20 years ago...

Yeah. I remember the raids we used to have for AVID back in the late '90s. I think I had 5x20GB partitions.

We were always having to do the old offline edit/online re-digitize to save space.

DV and HDV really did open things up, since as I remember HDs in any serious capacity were still crazy expensive.

I believe the first Lacie drives we bough were only 40GB, but that held a lot of SD DV material.

And here I am holding a USB stick with 30GB on it. Crazy.

BenB wrote: Promise just started shipping the Pegasus2 Thunderbolt 2.0 RAID line. They're selling in the online Apple store now.
store.apple.com/us/search/Pegasus2# !

What I find interesting is this from Promise though at $699.
store.apple.com/us/product/HE150VC/A/pro...raid-system?fnode=5f

No disks. Probably a bit pricey for JBOD but I'd been wondering when somebody would come out an enclosure that can add your own multiple disks.

Other than this there's the WD MyDisk Duo which does come with disks but they're user replaceable and JBOD.

the FCP.co front page story seems to imply this was custom designed for current MacPro users who want to pull their existing internal drives and pop them into this new enclosure.

Smart move.

I thought we would have at least seen Mavericks 10.9.1 drop by now. Eerie silence from Apple in the last few days.

Little to no rumblings about Mavericks.
Little to no rumblings about FCPX.
Minor rumblings about the Mac Pro.
Pegasus2 added to the Apple Store yesterday.

daviddelreal wrote: I thought we would have at least seen Mavericks 10.9.1 drop by now. Eerie silence from Apple in the last few days.

Little to no rumblings about Mavericks.
Little to no rumblings about FCPX.
Minor rumblings about the Mac Pro.
Pegasus2 added the the Apple Store yesterday.

I would have thought that Apple are concentrating on shipping as much consumer product prior to Christmas as possible. I just picked up an iPhone 5S on 10 months 0% through the Apple store

I remember hearing Tim Cook say he was going to lock down things a lot tighter than under Jobs. That seems to be the case as the rumor mill seems much quieter as time goes on.

Well... FCPX will happen by the 21st!!!!!!!! The backend portal for the App stores goes down for the holidays then. There are no updates or price changes to apps in the the app stores until after the holidays. So one week at the latest to still keep the december deadline. :woohoo:

Alex, did you find any mentions of "audio bus", "bus" or "roles bus" or "roles level" in iMovie 10?

Working on sweetening some audio in FCPX today on a project with a half dozen timelines. Although there is a lot of stuff I am hoping will happen in 10.1. It seem like some kind of audio busing is a must. It has such great potential in FCPX, but fails because there is no real way to deal with effects and levels on a role by role basis. I would like to bounce to ProTools, but we have so many changes on these projects, it would be frustrating. I'll be shocked if audio mixing doesn't receiving a major update.