FCPX 10.1.2 POST-RELEASE DISCUSSION

No, as I am not in Iberia, what Apple has done is to not address the hard to fix issues, they felt under pressure to release some sort of update, and felt that we would all be happy with what they updated, sorry, No it is not good enough, Apple has not made any effort to address either through actual updates or via press release the real issues.

Hate me, or not, I am not accepting this swill produced by Apple, they could have done more, the long list of updates could in all honesty been uploaded months ago.

The issues of the focus white ball thing, why it only works on uppermost "tracks", not on all tracks and clips. The zoom into clips in listview, the badly designed/coded timeline with the acres of light grey "bar" under the Primary Storyline, all of which still in updates from 10.0.1 to 10.1.2 not fixed, why????

Not being able to fix in place the way we could in FCP 7, the various windows, and have this retained, a long list of what is really small issues, when listed as a whole, it is a big issue, speaks to only satisfying a small number of beta testers.

More to the point, Apple refusing to enter into a dialogue with people like me, having a really awful feedback page, speaks volumes!!

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- Ronny

Well, MsJustine, I wouldnt be surprised if "jamón serrano" wasnt sold in Durban, but if you had a chance, try it and you would start loving ugly pigs.

2 things, I do not enter into name calling, that is for children, and secondly, this is an open forum, I am speaking my mind, it is not the same view as yours, and this is good, not bad!!

If you have a problem with my view, you have 2 options, no 3 options, OPTION 1: Report me to the moderator, have my posts or my account withdrawn, OPTION 2: Debate me, as I am trying to do, my views are valid, not popular, I am not wanting to be popular, or OPTION 3: Ignore me...

I write as I care, my approach might be a bit blunt, that is my way, it is not meant to offend, I am not going to sugar coat what I write, it is what it is.

There are people on this forum with direct access to Apple Pro Dev team, Apple makes contact nigh on impossible, limiting the feedback page to 200 characters, and forcing me to upload to dropbox, with no way to know if or when it is read.

All users are valuable, my view of how things are, are just as important as Steve or Larry, maybe even more as I do not have a history of old products, I see things anew, a non linear editing virgin if you will...

I see the flaws, I am calling attention to it, and I feel that Apple is simply not trying hard enough, and I am surprised that no one else sees the flaws I do, not saying I have special powers..

I care and I will not stop writing!!! So you can stop with calling me a pig, comparing me to a pig, making pig references to pigs, again, if you have an issue, there is a report to moderator function on every post. USE IT!!

MsJustine, what can we do? I understand some of your points. Some others I don`t because I don`t have the same problems. Many people hate FCPX, others hate Premiere or Avid or even Lightworks. We have been discussing features that are still lacking in this forums and some times we get frustrated. These kind of softwares are far from being perfect: you just have to live with it and be patient. Have you tried another software: maybe iMovie, or Lightworks. There is a free version of Lightworks for Mac. Don`t close any doors. Learn other applications.

What can we do? Well I explained it in my last post, the 3 options, that is a start. More to the point, what is wrong with having a dialogue, not name calling.

Those with direct access to the Dev team at Apple and are forum members could enter into a dialogue with the Dev Team, Apple does not make contact easy, FCP X is a tiny cog in the vast machine that is Apple Inc, how hard can it be to have a dialogue with someone?

All I am asking is to be heard, to be seen as making a contribution, if I submit something, even if it is a week later, respond, ask for further input, maybe just maybe I might have something to offer, after all, is this not what Apple did with 1 million free users of Yosemite???

Feedback needs to be 2 way, if it is only 1 way, me to Apple, it serves no logical reason to continue, 2 way helps me, and it helps Apple, it is not about money, I would happily answer emails for $2000 a month sitting right here in Durban for Apple!!!

Well, I am not one of those with direct contact with FCPX dev team. I am not saying that you are not right in being angry (although I think you are overreacting a bit, but that's ok). I can't debate with you because every one's experience with FCPX must be respected. it's clear that you've had a really bad experience with it... So, one again, don't you want to change to some other software from some other company that really cared about editors?

No it is not angry, disappointed in the way Apple does things. No scratch that, I am disappointed in the way some forum members have behaved. Instead of using the correct professional approach, they resort to name calling.

What I am pointing out is not hard or should take a long time to fix, if Apple did 2 things in 2014, changing the feedback page to unlimited text, inclusive video/screengrabs along with followup, and secondly, fixed the zoom into audio when in listview mode, that would make my year!!!

Not asking much, I accept that the timeline is never going to be fixed, a problem without solution due to Primary and Secondary storylines, the broad grey bar and up/down scroll bars never going away... Would really love to know the reasons for the inability to sort this out.

Cool down MsJustine. Nothing is personal here. You started calling pigs ugly and as my wife always says I'm a pig I really felt offended by this That's why I responded with some humor. Self-relativation is such a beautiful thing

I would love to have a serious talk with you, just like I do with everyone else on this forum or via pm. But you are making this very hard for me because you always fall into the trap of cheap trolling. Even when some of your arguments are valid, the words you are using make you sound very unserious:

The coding is still half baked, no where near professional.

I don't think you have any idea about the coding behind FCP X. Calling X unprofessional may have been popular in 2011, saying this today is fairly laughable. We have been using X for broadcast since the start and I have the pleasure of knowing quite some professionals and studios who are working with it on a very serious level. Still calling it unprofessional today makes you sound very... unprofessional.

The addition of features was to mask the fact Apple is not going to fix the underlying issues.

You really could not be more wrong than this. The few features that have been added were among the top 10 of features that many of us have been asking for since a long time now. I welcome them very, very much. But far more important than the few features in this release is that loads of little (and big) annoying things have been fixed and speed and user experience have been greatly improved. This has been the biggest bug-fix update since version 0.1 and I am happy to see user feedback has been taken so seriously.

What we have with 10.1.2 is putting lipstick on a pig.
It was not a good update, Apple it is an epic fail!!

Well, I guess this only proves my point. As long as you talk like this you cannot expect anyone to respond seriously.


Have a nice weekend,

- Ronny

I am sure that there was far more than 10 on the list of things to fix, as I do not use FCP X in any power form, I have no concept of some of the things that were requested, no idea about LUT or when to use this.

As a newbie to the software, I have noticed some things that with a minor tweak could really make it a powerful system, maybe it is the way my brain is wired, I notice things, I like to understand things in a certain way, again maybe the way my brain works, not the same as yours, I see something and I wonder what is the reason for that.. Example, the white ball focus tool thing on the vertical scrubber bar on the timeline, never can remember the term for that thing, why it only works on certain clips in the timeline, and not all...

I am trying to perfect a work method for the day I am called into edit, I want to be fast and efficient, to be able to zoom into the clips in the browser, to quickly find in/out points, use the keyboard instead of the mouse, that sort of thing, to not be able to do this zoom, and why was it not fixed in the 1st update from 10.0.0 to 10.0.1 stuns me!!

What I noticed is the loss of video testimonial on the In Action Page at Apple.com, I for years kept the BBC video as it was something to watch, to keep my interest, now it is all text based, for a video editing product, text only testimonial makes zero sense....Was no one able to edit the video, I would do it for the chance to enhance my demo reel...NO CASH!!!!

I stand by my FCP X is a pig, a few under the hood modifications will really speed up the NLE, please please fix the user interface......Please!!!!

I accept the negative karma hit...

MsJustine. I'll keep this short-

Apple interacts with feedback when they feel it's beneficial and necessary. I've provided lots of detailed feedback to Apple and have never recieved any direct response. Yet somehow I've managed to avoid feeling bitter or slighted. Go figure.

Many of the optimizations you deem essential in your earlier posts don't exist on FCPX, likely won't, and to my knowledge aren't on any other platform either. Many of your other issues aren't issues at all. Clips hidden by date separators for example, is EASILY changed. Keywords are not pervasive; you're doing it wrong. And the grey space below the Primary storyline can be collapsed simply. You clearly don't know the software, but you chalk these things up to unprofessional code (?!?), or lazy Apple, or personal persecution or something... And then you wonder why Apple (or other board members) doesn't want to engage you in a dialogue.

Your understanding of how software is developed, the work it takes, and the concept of roadmaps seem non-existent. Suffice to say you're utterly and completely mistaken.

People are on this board to learn and engage, and many of those people are new to the application- but you're sense of entitlement is maddening, and if you can't find some way to better and less combative way to interact here, I'm honestly inclined to see you banned.

I am missing the option to optimize media such as EXDCAM EX to Pro Res. I know it is native format and can be edited in FCPX but it is not optimized. So I have to run all my clips through MPEG Streamclip to get Pro Res. Disapointing

Anybody test Core Melt Lock & Load X with 10.1.2 yet?

[strike]Yep. Does not work. Clicking Track motion does nothing.[/strike] :huh:

EDIT: Lock'n'Load works. Had to reinstall it though. Thanks TPayton.

Seems that the NeatVideo plugin works, so glad for that.

Makki wrote: I am missing the option to optimize media such as EXDCAM EX to Pro Res. I know it is native format and can be edited in FCPX but it is not optimized. So I have to run all my clips through MPEG Streamclip to get Pro Res. Disapointing

Apple has decided which codecs need to be optimized, h.264, DVCPROHD, HDV, and on. Some of the sony formats are not on that list so there is no option for it.

I think it would be good to have an option to optimize everything and the option to send the prores to resolve. On mixed format and framerate projects, Resolve 11 still doesn't like it.

To the feedback page!

AWESOME! I can copy and paste attributes without fear now even if they have a crop adjustment. There seems to be a new "Cloud" generator as well that looks kind of cool. The application feels extremely snappy. I feel like I have a Mac Pro (late 2013) or something. Oh wait... I DO! Before it didn't seem super fast compared to my old Mac Pro 1,1 from 2006 with a 5770 card. This is a great update and a large step in the right direction. I hope not too many nasty bugs are in there that I haven't found yet. I'm sure there are some but hopefully they have easy workarounds or only affect other people and not me. Still, the bug fixes are the best feature of this update for me. The new media managing stuff doesn't make much of a difference for me personally but it's always nice to have more options.

Soundwise wrote: Yep. Does not work. Clicking Track motion does nothing. :huh:

I just got a chance to try Lock & Load. I downloaded the most recent version of the site just to be sure. It seems to be working just fine. I'm on 10.9.3 on a MBPR. Maybe try grabbing that most recent version from the site, see if it helps.

Redifer wrote: There seems to be a new "Cloud" generator as well that looks kind of cool

That cloud generator is pretty fantastic. I'm sure we'll see it popping up all over the place. I know I could have used it for some reflection plates for a car scene I did a while ago.

And of course will be useful for "Airport 2014!"

Seems to be quite a few new generators.

And am I seeing new title templates? Was "Slate" there before? I don't look through that stuff very much, not sure if it's stuff that's always been there or not.