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20 Dec 2013 03:02 #36631 by sirdavidabraham
in the interim perhaps one option is to have a client folder in the filesystem then one library per spot

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20 Dec 2013 06:43 #36644 by ptrush
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That is what I'm planning to do- Then, I suppose, added events within those libraries can be used to add additional media at a later date.? But, other than that I really don't see any reason why I still need events (other than moving portions of media around).
Are there other ways events are useful in this file management plan?
hmm. We need to start a Library workflow thread.

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20 Dec 2013 07:28 #36646 by pollux
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I am still very curious if dual video card setup in "old" Mac Pros will work with 10.1 or not...

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20 Dec 2013 08:09 #36648 by Scrubelicious
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No a scrolling timeline... epic fail or?

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20 Dec 2013 08:19 #36649 by MsJustine
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I have the very strong feeling this was a get it out the door before we have a riot...It feels half an update, the bouncing ball for only top most level video clips, not useful, no bouncing ball selection for audio, not useful.

The update projects folder/library, a half completed update, to me Apple rushed again, not the first time they caved into public pressure, remember 10.0.0??

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20 Dec 2013 08:27 #36651 by thefcpxeditor
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To me adding a scrolling timeline would be an epic fail. I hated that when I used Premiere. I like control of my timeline so I can adjust what I am looking at during playback.

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20 Dec 2013 08:36 - 20 Dec 2013 08:37 #36652 by MsJustine
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We are all old enough to decide what to wear, let us have this same luxury in how we set up our systems, there should be a FINAL CUT PRO....PREFERENCES.... Scroling time line [] check box.... fixed...

But no Apple will not do this :(
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20 Dec 2013 09:45 #36656 by ronny courtens
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There are a lot of things that we would like to see further improved, but a scrolling timeline would be the last one I think of. So no, no fail at all. I think it would be stupid to waste time on implementing a feature every serious editor turns off anyway, just for the sake of having it.

A lot of time has been spent under the hood of FCPX optimizing stability, speed and media management, and on improving existing features. This is a good thing as it has an effect on everyone using the app, which is more important than some extra bells and whistles that only a few people ask for. Now the team can concentrate on adding new features, and these are easier to implement once you have a solid base to work on. So I expect from now on we will see more regular updates again, including feature updates. Past experience has shown that any new feature added to FCPX works better than in any other NLE. I hope they take their time so they can continue this trend. Any update is incomplete until a software is perfect. And there is no such thing as a perfect software B)

- Ronny

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20 Dec 2013 13:11 #36671 by BenB
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pollux wrote: I am still very curious if dual video card setup in "old" Mac Pros will work with 10.1 or not...


No, dual GPU is for the new Mac Pro only.

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20 Dec 2013 13:36 #36675 by Julian
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I'm really excited about "project snapshot". This will make it so easy to try out new ideas without having to worry about undoing a million things. This will be much easier to manage compared to duplicating projects.

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20 Dec 2013 14:00 #36682 by cinemaloha
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thefcpxeditor wrote: To me adding a scrolling timeline would be an epic fail. I hated that when I used Premiere. I like control of my timeline so I can adjust what I am looking at during playback.


The option to enable/disable a scrolling playhead feature would be very useful (via a button and keyboard shortcut). I would like to have the option but a quick pause/play is effective in locating current position too.

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20 Dec 2013 14:07 #36686 by MsJustine
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What is needed is to allow us the users of the software the option in preferences this choice. It seems odd that Apple has taken the view of not using preferences, when I first launched FCPX, I was surprised at the scarce number of options in the preference cupboard.

It makes sense to me to have a large number of options in the prefernces, this allows the software to be tailored to the user.

Am I wrong in thinking this?

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20 Dec 2013 14:15 - 20 Dec 2013 14:16 #36689 by cinemaloha
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Dave_EP wrote:

Seanus wrote: But you can just open the multi cam clip and stabilise in there. Why export?


Well, suppose you have a 1 hour shoot that you're editing, and almost every camera moves at some point during that time, so it's not even a static shot with just the odd bump.

Do you rally want to stabilise (say) 6 or 7 cameras for an entire hour just for a 5 second shot here and an 8 second shot there?

If the multi cam hasn't been topped and tailed you can just about work out the timecode positioning, but if it has been topped and tailed then things don't match up at all, so it's pretty hard to find this 5 seconds within the 1 hour shoot and is much quicker to export/import/overlay.

if you have a better / faster way I'm all ears :)


My workaround:

1. In your main timeline, go to the clip that needs stabilization, shift+f to locate clip in the event browser, this will highlight your range in your multicam clip
2. Cmd+1 to go to event browser window, with snapping on, hover cursor over the in/out points for timecodes & remember them.
3. Double click the multicam clip in the event browser to open it in Angle Editor.
4. In Angle Editor, press Control+P to type in the remembered timecodes (one for in point & another for out point).
5. Blade that section of the clip, then apply stabilization.
6. Repeat for the tail end of the clip.

Works fast when you get used to it, along with keyboard shortcuts. I've used this workflow on several multicam projects for many 5-10 sec shots.

I hope this helps and good luck.
Last edit: 20 Dec 2013 14:16 by cinemaloha.

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20 Dec 2013 14:21 #36690 by wdevn
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And there is no such thing as a perfect software B)


Just like there is no such thing as a perfect editor!

LLAP,
James
Taipei, Taiwan

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20 Dec 2013 14:23 - 20 Dec 2013 14:24 #36691 by JFilmmaker1
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Has anybody else seen the monitor they use on the FCPX app page. A black Apple monitor. Interesting could it be a glimpse at the new monitor Apple intends to come out with? It would make sense color wise, matching the new Mac Pro.
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20 Dec 2013 14:30 #36693 by cinemaloha
Replied by cinemaloha on topic FCPX10.1 Free Update

MsJustine wrote: What is needed is to allow us the users of the software the option in preferences this choice. It seems odd that Apple has taken the view of not using preferences, when I first launched FCPX, I was surprised at the scarce number of options in the preference cupboard.

It makes sense to me to have a large number of options in the prefernces, this allows the software to be tailored to the user.

Am I wrong in thinking this?


Justine,

Apple likes simple and many pref options goes against their vision. There are other NLEs in the market that have all the buttons, knobs, pref options that other editors crave. FCPX allows editors to create without having to worry about all that, which is the reason why I moved from Adobe. Remember, film was cut with scissors and taped together and editors then created beautiful motion pictures so we are all spoiled with what we have today. Once you get over all the initial challenge and learning curve, I believe you will love FCPX. When I first launched Premiere I was bombarded with options that made my head spin.

I like Apple's vision with keeping everything simple...from their hardware to software. Anyway, just my 2 cents.

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20 Dec 2013 14:33 #36694 by BenB
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Thunderbolt display, I have one, nothing new. There is a larger one that is more square in a photo on that page, and it is the 4K one they sell in the Apple store, but not an Apple brand monitor.

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20 Dec 2013 14:34 #36695 by cinemaloha
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JFilmmaker1 wrote: Has anybody else seen the monitor they use on the FCPX app page. A black Apple monitor. Interesting could it be a glimpse at the new monitor Apple intends to come out with? It would make sense color wise, matching the new Mac Pro.


That's a 27" Thunderbolt Display that they launched in 0 7/20/11.

store.apple.com/us/product/MC914LL/B/app...bolt-display-27-inch

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20 Dec 2013 15:15 #36701 by Daniel Rutledge
I'm with Sammy on the under the hood improvements comment. I have only played around with the software, but it feels so much more responsive. I updated a recent project to take 10.1 for a spin. The project is fairly complex and it was recent, so I remember well the slow response and spinning beach balls while playing back certain sections. It all worked much better now. I don't care about timeline scrolling, but for some reason it was top of every "10.1 Wish list" that I saw on the web, lol. I guess some people just love it. My two big disappointments were:

No autosave vault. I like snapshots, but it is not really the same thing. Over the last two years I have had 4 projects get corrupted and was not able to recover just using the previous version (which was corrupted too). I managed to more or less salvage three of them, but one of my editors lost over a week of work outright. I know that there are third party apps for this. I tried one and it created way more trouble than it was worth. This seems like a core responsibility of a pro app and needs to be added back in.

No round trip to motion. Ironically, I use Motion more since they killed Send To Motion, but that just makes me want it more. I love making my own plugins, but sometimes I want to do a complex composite or animation.

There are a lot of other features I was hoping for, but those were my big disappointments. I'm excited about the new software, but to me it was a little anticlimactic. If I was getting a new Mac Pro to go with it, I'm sure I'd see things differently though.

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20 Dec 2013 16:14 - 20 Dec 2013 16:19 #36713 by markokoks
Replied by markokoks on topic FCPX10.1 Free Update
Hello,

Is there a scrolling timeline in 10.1?
I hate when the timeline jumps into random places while zooming in and out and the playhead gets lost.

Greetings,
Marko
Last edit: 20 Dec 2013 16:19 by markokoks.

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