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The Future Of FCPX

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02 Mar 2012 03:28 #5214 by installationspace
I completely agree this has gotten out of hand. I respect everyone's opinion, however it bothers me that nearly every time I post on this forum a certain user limits or dimisses my opinion because he thinks his "20 years experience in media production" overrides nearly everything I have to say. I have little to no respect for people who think like this.

You guys are completely spot on, the mark of a great teacher and professional is one who never stops learning, even if the lesson comes directly from a student. FCPX has been a challenge for those in the industry whose egos prohibit them from the challenge of learning a completely new way of working. No matter how experienced you are, it really doesn't matter at the end of the day, you must embrace the changes in technology that happen and create new innovative ways of working to stay ahead of the curve.

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02 Mar 2012 10:30 #5239 by Mikeybouchereau
I just wanted to chime in and say. I like everyone on this forum! I love that everyone is willing to share their knowledge with everyone else. I try to shy away from post that get heated. But maybe I should post a really goofy picture and remind everyone how its not really fun for anyone to get mad at the internet, because well its the internet.

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02 Mar 2012 13:10 #5241 by installationspace
LOL Mikey, you're the best!

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05 Mar 2012 19:57 #5342 by itsDavidAbraham

ronny courtens wrote: I'm still learning every day - even from watching a 10 year old do a Photoshop tutorial on YouTube. I'm also prepared for all those years experience to be near worthless due to the acceleration of technology.

Wise words. 34 years ago I was cutting 35mm film with a razor blade and I have been learning ever since LOL. This is one of the most polite forums around, let's keep it that way.


Yes agreed! I have high hopes for fcp.co

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16 Apr 2012 13:20 - 16 Apr 2012 22:34 #7118 by Scrubelicious
Let me blow some of this dust off...

I remember before FCPX was released there was a rumor that Autodesk and Apple agreed on that Apple will stay out of the high end level and Autodesk will produce software on the Mac.
Check out the latest Smoke 2013 and there online demo videos (attached image).

Smoke has been retooled to run on the most recent generation Apple iMac and MacBook Pro systems.


Don't forget to read the frontpage of this site folks :) -Editor

I was hoping to see something like this from Apple Final Cut Pro and Shake merging in to one Application... remembering the Rumor web sites claiming that Apple is working on a next-generation compositing application codenamed Phenomenon.

For 3500 buck I might jump on to the Autodesk bandwagon!
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16 Apr 2012 13:56 #7119 by ronny courtens
I agree. At this price point this is a viable option.

I have come to like FP10 a lot. With three units in daily production coupled with Resolve, if we can also add one-way finishing in Smoke for short form programs I'm all won for this concept. Can't wait to get my hands on this thing B)

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16 Apr 2012 19:28 #7130 by Scrubelicious
I was hopping to see something like this from Apple before FCPX. :angry:

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17 Apr 2012 14:09 #7161 by Snapdragon
Replied by Snapdragon on topic Re: The Future Of FCPX
Smoke 2013 looks like the programme I have been waiting for.

I want everything in one place, no screwing about travelling back and forth between multiple apps. If I can edit easily in there as as well - it may become my software of choice.

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17 Apr 2012 14:52 #7162 by cgbier
Replied by cgbier on topic Re: The Future Of FCPX

Scrubelicious wrote: I was hopping to see something like this from Apple before FCPX. :angry:

I'm still waiting for Phenomenon. That would work greatly with the soon to be expected Pro Book G5.

OTOH: Is the mysterious new app that rumored maybe Apples answer to Smoke?

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17 Apr 2012 14:56 #7163 by Lee Patterson
just watched the full Smoke presentation, for a pre-release it is impressivly stable and very, very deep. Along with FCPX and Motion, can you imagine what these capabilities would have cost 10 years ago? I also liked the point that was made about the number of screens there are in the world (billions) and how people are now consuming the content we create (mobiles, tablets). I need to step back and have a long think about short-form/long-form, viral, Broadcast etc
We live in interesting times:)

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17 Apr 2012 14:57 #7164 by NocoDave
Replied by NocoDave on topic Re: The Future Of FCPX
I have a little gut feeling, but it could be biased by my hopes, that Apple bringing back dual viewers could be an indication towards something good with trimming tools.

If so then FCPX will suit my needs perfectly.

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17 Apr 2012 15:00 - 17 Apr 2012 15:02 #7165 by Lee Patterson
by the way, I had cause yesterday to open an FCP Studio project from last March...what a world of pain that felt like, I had forgotten about that quaint old rendering thing;) I love FCPX, there! I'm outed. Furthermore, I just did a quick tally of what the FCP Studio boxes have cost me over the years and I could have had a couple of second hand cars and a cruise. Cheaper and more powerful is good:)
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17 Apr 2012 15:41 #7166 by robertdee
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You watched the presentation? Do you have a link? Would be great to see it.

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17 Apr 2012 15:48 #7168 by Snapdragon
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robertdee wrote: You watched the presentation? Do you have a link? Would be great to see it.


Yeah this. :)

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17 Apr 2012 15:51 #7169 by Lee Patterson
starts around 27 minutes

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17 Apr 2012 15:53 #7170 by robertdee
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Great Stuff! That's my lunchtime viewing sorted...

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17 Apr 2012 16:12 #7172 by Scrubelicious

cgbier wrote: OTOH: Is the mysterious new app that rumored maybe Apples answer to Smoke?

I would say more is the mysterious new app that rumored maybe Apples answer... is Smoke.
:oops:

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17 Apr 2012 16:49 #7173 by Frankly
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Do you remember the Final Cut Studio In Action page, where companies told how they use Final Cut?

FCPX have it now www.apple.com/finalcutpro/in-action

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17 Apr 2012 18:28 #7183 by simonpwood
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Someone mentioned the idea that Apple may try to combine FCPX and Motion in the future.

A similar attempt has been made with HitFilm Ultimate, this software that started off as a special effects package called Effects Lab Pro a number of years back. Effects Lab worked pretty well when I used it for compositing and special effects, and now they have moved into the editing arena (on PC only).

hitfilm.com/ultimate

It looks like a valiant attempt by a small company of filmmakers, but squarely aimed at the budget action filmmaker.

Interesting to see how this works out for them....

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17 Apr 2012 19:14 #7186 by Snapdragon
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I will have to test it, but to me Smoke 2013 looks like exactly what I have been waiting for.

The Next Gen of NLE is about doing everything under one roof - in one timeline. And IMO Apple have blown it with FCPX and their handling of the Pro community and the Mac Pro update. I love FCPX as a programme - but it lacks some very basic things that rule it out of a lot of jobs I am working on.

Smoke 2013 looks like exactly what I need.

I know there are FCP trainers on here that love moving back and forth between different UI's and Apps (they'd be out of business without the need to train for more than one app I guess) - but for me its just a giant pain in ass.

If Smoke does what it says on the tin, I would say there are going to be many that move from FCP to it - and then what is stopping all those editors heading to the PC if Autodesk write it for that. Its a very slippery slope.

what goes up must come down and all that.

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