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20 Nov 2018 16:20 #97830 by damiangrady
Replied by damiangrady on topic 10.4.4 Released
I've not been copying and pasting as you surmised. I'm using the quote button MsJustine as my recent posts are in reply to your posts.

I'm just curious to know what you (and others) think is good about 10.4.4. Your previous posts in this thread seem to be all about what it's missing/what you're not happy with.

I don't agree with your D grade. I'd say the Workflow Extensions and the batch sharing alone make it at least a B.

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20 Nov 2018 16:26 - 20 Nov 2018 16:27 #97831 by robertdee
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Workflow extensions is very interesting. I use a number of motion graphics plugins that might benefit from having an interface that’s freed from the inspector - nodes3, mO2. I use after effects a lot as well with Trapcode Suite and they’ve started building separate workflow panels for that which is very useful. Not saying that Trapcode will come to FCPX (it is an edit program after all) but the model is interesting. The more I can stay in FCPX the better.
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20 Nov 2018 16:44 #97832 by damiangrady
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robertdee wrote: Workflow extensions is very interesting. I use a number of motion graphics plugins that might benefit from having an interface that’s freed from the inspector - nodes3, mO2. I use after effects a lot as well with Trapcode Suite and they’ve started building separate workflow panels for that which is very useful. Not saying that Trapcode will come to FCPX (it is an edit program after all) but the model is interesting. The more I can stay in FCPX the better.


Totally agree Rob. Exciting times ahead. I've been very envious of the integration of frame.io in Premiere. Now we have it FCPX!

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20 Nov 2018 17:55 - 20 Nov 2018 17:57 #97834 by cseeman
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RedShark has an article on the codec warning.
www.redsharknews.com/post/item/5971-appl...move-away-from-intel

I think this is a case of Apple not really being clear. I can't help but wonder if they check with any professional editors they have contact with to discuss the ambiguity of the messaging before going live with it.
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20 Nov 2018 18:37 #97836 by bracket26
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Redifer wrote: Well I found what I consider to be a rather giant bug. Creating Compound Clips does not work correctly any more for me.


I'm reluctant to update FCPX if this bug is affecting everyone. Can anyone else chime in about this being an issue? Redifer, did you find a workaround?

Thanks!

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20 Nov 2018 19:19 #97841 by cseeman
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My own speculative hunch would be if this were widely the case, there'd be floods of post in forums far and wide about this issue given that creating Compound clips is not an obscurely used feature.

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20 Nov 2018 20:43 #97842 by JoeEditor
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Can the moderator delete a few of these that do not pertain to the subject of the thread i any way?

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20 Nov 2018 20:50 #97843 by damiangrady
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Redifer wrote: Well I found what I consider to be a rather giant bug. Creating Compound Clips does not work correctly any more for me. The newly created compound clip will slide to a new place earlier in the timeline instead of staying put, like it should. Does not seem to matter if created with Alt + G or via right-click/contextual menu.

Video evidence: - www.gamesack.net/crap/CC.mp4

It should absolutely not do that.


Not happening with me Redifer. I'm on Mojave 10.14.1 if that helps.

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21 Nov 2018 00:27 - 21 Nov 2018 00:28 #97854 by Redifer
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It's not happening for me every time, either. I wonder what the issue was? I can't seem to recreate the issue but I'll keep trying to see if I can find out what causes it. I think my OS was on 10.4.0 when it was affecting me. I am at 10.4.1 now.
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21 Nov 2018 01:34 #97858 by cseeman
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Redifer wrote: It's not happening for me every time, either. I wonder what the issue was? I can't seem to recreate the issue but I'll keep trying to see if I can find out what causes it. I think my OS was on 10.4.0 when it was affecting me. I am at 10.4.1 now.


When faced with inexplicable and inconsistent behavior it may be time to reset preferences.

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21 Nov 2018 05:27 #97859 by Karsten Schlüter
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FCPX.guru wrote: Can the moderator delete a few of these that do not pertain to the subject of the thread i any way?


generally, I would love to … but a) all participants should be mature enough to respect the basics of manners and communications, b) freedom of speech yadayada, c) Peter is much more tolerant than me, the [strike]soup-[/strike]… content-nazi … :woohoo:

if this would be my board, full-quotes deserve verboten (oops … ;) ), same with thread-jacking = changing the subject from general observations to me-me-me dialogues …


back2topic …

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21 Nov 2018 05:57 #97865 by MsJustine
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I really have no emotional investment in my posts, you are free to delete the ones that don't conform, really no biggie on my side...Moderate away moderator... Really delete the ones that are out of context of the thread...

A moderator should have the right to modify within reason any and all posts on a public forum, if I was paying to submit, then I would have to fight for every letter, full stop and comma, this is a free to use forum and if there are posts that need deleting, I respect and encourage it.

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21 Nov 2018 06:17 #97868 by Karsten Schlüter
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<facepalm, speaking to myself> Am I speak in tongues??

MsJustine wrote: …// full quote //.



perfect example of mentioned threadjacking
… for another last time, MsJ:
This thread is not about you, yep, hard to believe: a thread you're participating in is not about you, imagine.
Nor do you have to explain here the job of a janitor … ehm, Mod …

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21 Nov 2018 07:46 #97888 by damiangrady
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Is it me or has FCPX become a little faster and responsive in 10.4.4?

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21 Nov 2018 08:40 #97891 by robertdee
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I'm finding that generally. I'm still having an issue with Titles and Generators taking a long time (30 seconds+) to load when I browse them or open FCPX. This has been the case since the Mojave upgrade rather than the new update, though. And I do have a lot :-)

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21 Nov 2018 09:11 #97892 by Michi
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Concerning the Legacy-Media warning, it might not be that big of an issue if I understand this blogpost right:
www.digitalrebellion.com/blog/posts/thou..._phased_out_in_macos

I don't really have that much technical knowledge but to me this reads like you can just install external plugins to support Legacy-Media (just as you do now for Redcode or Canon RAW)?

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21 Nov 2018 12:09 #97893 by JoeEditor
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We've noticed all three apps are slightly responsive, and that Compressor processes our daily/weekly jobs in HALF the time it used to, and FCPX exports SLIGHTLY faster than it used to. But the list view still reverts to factory default layout when relaunching FCPX.

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21 Nov 2018 14:49 #97895 by Axel
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FCPX.guru wrote: But the list view still reverts to factory default layout when relaunching FCPX.



The filmstrip view as well. I like to see "All", but after a restart, it's back to 30 seconds. I've filed feedback request for this some two years ago, it seems most people don't care. Could one hack this? Somewhere under the hood there has to be the command for this stored.

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21 Nov 2018 14:53 #97896 by MsJustine
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I have only noticed that the listview defaults to 30seconds and is greyed out, even though the clip is 54minutes long. Thanks for the report!

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21 Nov 2018 16:17 #97897 by cseeman
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Michi wrote: Concerning the Legacy-Media warning, it might not be that big of an issue if I understand this blogpost right:
www.digitalrebellion.com/blog/posts/thou..._phased_out_in_macos

I don't really have that much technical knowledge but to me this reads like you can just install external plugins to support Legacy-Media (just as you do now for Redcode or Canon RAW)?


I believe what it means that being reliant on Quicktime (frameworks) won't work and AVFoundation won't have the equivalent support. Developers (such as Adobe, Avid, Blackmagic) can and will develop their own decoders.

I'm not sure about hooks into FCPX as the article indicates that isn't likely to happen with legacy codecs. They point to FFMPEG based solutions.

What might be interesting to see if some entity develops an odd bit that will detect the legacy codec, use FFMPEG to transcode and have the transcode appear within FCPX. Perhaps some magical "transcoder" plugin.

There are apps like KeyFlow Pro that allow you to install FFMPEG for codecs unsupported by AVFoundation so I wonder if some kind of plugin will read the library and transcode and spit it back into FCPX. I guess it will depend if there's a way for a developer to scale Apple's walled garden.

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