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10.2.2 Prerelease discussion

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10 Jul 2015 18:11 #66381 by haysoos123
My two things that they REALLY REALLY need to give us has not changed:

1) Performance improvement for long, complicated timelines. I'm talking snappiness. Yes, this HAS improved somewhat over the different versions, but I don't think it's really there yet. I think this is really critical because it can have a real impact on how the program gets adopted for long-form work. Right now, it "works," but it does hinder productivity. It's a big problem, let's not deny it.

2) Color/vertical/bus audio organization. Like EVERYONE wants, pretty much. Without this, highly complicated audio editing is much harder than it needs to be. The little bits of audio get all over the place, and I end up putting vertical separators that are not designed to do that. Again, you can do it, but is it ideal? Not at all.

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10 Jul 2015 18:48 #66382 by Daniel Rutledge
CAPS LOCK!!!!!

ROUND TRIP TO MOTION! PLEASE!

BETTER AUDIO ORGANIZING!

Export OMF or AAF without a plugin. (caps lock off because I'm not so annoyed about this)

Better color tools built in. I love Color Finale, but it honestly shouldn't need to exist.

Also, the 3D text is cool, and I can see bright things in the future, but I would much prefer something more functional like morph cut (that I would use every day).

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11 Jul 2015 11:29 #66392 by Andreas Kiel
Beside some other things already mentioned I would love to have better Proxy handling.

Here why:
VFX or similar clips which contain an alpha channel will loose the alpha and are totally useless when working with proxies. So a proxy workflow for the whole project is not possible.
With stills there can be a problem as well - in case they are huge. In any case stills aren't covered by proxy workflows.

So all together makes a offline/proxy only won't work at all.

Just a thought.
- Andreas

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11 Jul 2015 15:10 #66394 by Seamusvfx
1 up for Color/vertical/bus audio organization. Not exactly a new request but audio editing is still a massive clot in the FCP pipeline

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13 Jul 2015 08:28 #66429 by ievgeniilarin
Replace the selected clip in the Timeline, leaving all effects, with the Browser selection.

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13 Jul 2015 13:48 #66432 by FvH
Replied by FvH on topic 10.2.2 Prerelease discussion
Well, I have only a few wishes regarding an update. The reason is that I am quite happy with the software after editing more than 1000 corporate, music, and art videos with FCPX. Nevertheless, here are my points:

1) Colored roles

2) Primary storyline clip glueing (keeping clips together without generating compounds clips)

3) Repairing bugs. Example: You have a text (word) in black over a white generator. When you click and alt/drag both items as a copy to another location, they will display in reverse order, i.e., the text under the generator. I do not see why it needs to do this.

4) As for the Motion roundtrip, I have to admit that I am quite comfortable with the situation as is. Let me explain this minority opinion. Usually, I make an animation in Motion, export a ProRes 4444 file, import it into FCPX and I'm done. Want to change something? Then I just open the Motion project, make the change, and export a new ProRes 4444 file with the same name replacing the previous file. It will instantly be updated in FCPX. This is just two clicks more than with roundtripping, and the advantage: I am dealing with simple assets, and I do not require a second piece of software to function on my machine. Remember what happened to the Motion projects when converting legacy projects to FCPX via 7toX? They arrived black.

5) I would like to see (or better: hear) enhanced audio processing, especially bus-organized routing by roles. Yes, I could do this by going via LPX, but it would just be comfortable to stay in FCPX for this.

These are my major points. Happy editing!

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13 Jul 2015 15:16 - 13 Jul 2015 15:18 #66437 by finalbug.net
Hi FvH

With respect to your point 5:

bus-organized routing by roles. Yes, I could do this by going via LPX, but it would just be comfortable to stay in FCPX for this.


Could you expand on this what you are doing here?

I recently had to export different audio channels to different roles for broadcast.
The only way I found of doing this was by adding a role XYZ to the clips one by one that had already been added into the magnetic timeline in the inspector and then exporting with multi tracks in the share menu. Which kind of seems silly if you ask me?

best

Paul
Last edit: 13 Jul 2015 15:18 by finalbug.net. Reason: typo

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13 Jul 2015 15:50 #66438 by plysat
Replied by plysat on topic 10.2.2 Prerelease discussion

paurray wrote: Hi FvH

With respect to your point 5:

bus-organized routing by roles. Yes, I could do this by going via LPX, but it would just be comfortable to stay in FCPX for this.


Could you expand on this what you are doing here?

I recently had to export different audio channels to different roles for broadcast.
The only way I found of doing this was by adding a role XYZ to the clips one by one that had already been added into the magnetic timeline in the inspector and then exporting with multi tracks in the share menu. Which kind of seems silly if you ask me?

best

Paul

Add your Roles in the Browser, before you start cutting. A few minutes spent in prep and then you're done. You may need to modify a couple Roles in the TL here and there, but if you set it all up before you start cutting you don't have to think about it again...

Can't sleep? Try this: fcpxpert.net ;-)

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13 Jul 2015 18:07 #66442 by Dave_EP
Round trip to motion - PLEASE!!!!!! (yes I've requested several times).

Flatten Multicam !!!! C'mon even Adobe does this now! Some things like stabilise don't work on multicam

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14 Jul 2015 08:53 #66463 by finalbug.net
Hi plysat

Thanks for your response.
Seeing as how it is bad form on my part to crash this thread I posted this as a separate question here:

www.fcp.co/fcp-forum/4-final-cut-pro-x-f...cks-in-browser#66462

thanks

Paul

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17 Jul 2015 12:49 - 17 Jul 2015 12:51 #66591 by simonpwood
This is a small bugbear of mine; probably there is some keyboard modifier to do this or something but I could never find it.

Ok, so my playhead is somewhere on the timeline. Then I go to a new clip in the timeline to add an effect. I skim over until I see a frame that I want and click the mouse. Then I move over to the effect, but no, the clip is selected but the playhead is still where it was on a different frame on the first clip. So I go back to the clip and click above the frame I wanted, go to add the effect, but no, now the clip has been deselected, so I go back and click the clip again. Etc.

It seems like I am always clicking 3 times before I can add an effect or something. Am I the only one? There has to be a better way that I missed out on...
Last edit: 17 Jul 2015 12:51 by simonpwood.

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17 Jul 2015 12:53 #66592 by simonpwood
In summary I guess what I am saying is this: is there a way to make the playhead stick to a frame when you click on a new clip?

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17 Jul 2015 13:18 #66593 by Tom Wolsky
Option-click. The application used to behave the way you describe, click, play head moves. Someone thought this was wrong. Still don't know why the current behavior is considered better. If I select something, wouldn't I want the play head over it?

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17 Jul 2015 13:44 - 17 Jul 2015 13:45 #66594 by Jonathan Levin
SimonPWood.

By any chance are you using an Apple Magic Mouse? Mine has been acting flacky and doing exactly what you are talking about not only in FCP but other apps as well. Just curious? If you are try a plug in mouse and see if that makes any difference.

Jonathan
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17 Jul 2015 13:54 #66595 by simonpwood
Hi Tom, thanks that did the trick.

Hey Jonathan, I am using an Apple Mouse, but get the same result with the trackpad. Toms solution works though.

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17 Jul 2015 21:06 #66608 by haysoos123
True, but if you have a clip selected and then double-click on an effect in the browser, doesn't it apply to the selected clip no matter where your playhead is? Also, a lot of times, I will press 'c' to select a clip instead, so there's no danger of accidentally selecting a handle or something with the mouse. I will often turn skimming off when working heavily with effects, too.

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17 Jul 2015 21:14 #66609 by Tom Wolsky
Indeed that's true and glad it works, just if you're applying an effect surely you want to see the effect as soon as it's applied, hence click the clip to select it and move the playhead so with the effect applied you can see what's happening. That's my thinking anyway.

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19 Jul 2015 17:38 #66656 by fcpguru
After spending the last 8 weeks with Premiere, I'm just so happy to be back in FCPX. But one thing I'd really like is a bit more customization of the interface. I got used to setting up Premiere's windows to accomplish whatever task I had to do and find the horizontal bar limiting. Sometimes I want to have a really tall timeline (lots of tracks) and a tall inspector...

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29 Jul 2015 01:45 #66943 by Gudgefilm

fcpguru wrote: After spending the last 8 weeks with Premiere, I'm just so happy to be back in FCPX. But one thing I'd really like is a bit more customization of the interface. I got used to setting up Premiere's windows to accomplish whatever task I had to do and find the horizontal bar limiting. Sometimes I want to have a really tall timeline (lots of tracks) and a tall inspector...


^ yes please.

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29 Jul 2015 14:05 #66959 by MsJustine
10 weeks since the last update, in the last month I had a Digital Camera Raw update, which got me all excited, updated the Camera Raw files, to prepare for FCP X update....nothing :whistle:

I have that hope Apple have not forgotten to press Publish Updates...10 weeks, surely some sort of update could have been posted...Even a few new title options, something, just to keep us happy :(

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