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This is a Raid (storage what to do)

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09 Mar 2015 05:49 #61054 by Karsten Schlüter
As a side note:
This is a phantastic thread, profound advice from the 'pros', nobody's patronizing ... fcp.co at its best!

Happyfingers wrote: Samsung 850 EVO 1TB Solid State Drive


1 TB is nice2have, but do you need 1TB on a "the sole function of a raid setup would be for editing not storage" … ?

This weekend's yield in my lil' habitat: ~80-90GBs. If you don't optimize, even a tiny 128Gigs SSD would fit. And you get such an ext.SSD/usb3 starting at <80€ ... ; and a ext.Samsung SSD 250GB for ~170€.

Actual offer at amazon.de : WD My Passport Pro 2 TB 'used' = 210€ - Amazon calls this 'warehouse deals', I'm a huge fan of that: all the remittees amazon gets, have to be called 'used' => lots of bargains ... got my Lumix for 660, instead of 780€ ... yes the box was open, but device in 'mint condition' ...

I know, those wishlists explodes, you instantly lose track …  :lol:

tl;dr :
if the fast drive is meant only as a working horse, maybe a 250GB drive is 'big enough. Then: ~180€ (usb3) or 250€ (tb) .... both bus powered.

(sorry for prices in €, I'm too lazy to calculate; early morning here, 1st coffee's haven't reached grey matter yet)

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09 Mar 2015 06:04 #61056 by Happyfingers
well what i have ended up doing for now is purchase another toshiba cavio (because i already had one)
so that got me a 2tb raid set up for $79

but im still keen on the evo but cant make 500 clams vanish prior to a family holiday :evil: (without being caught)

as for size im not sure
bring back an unknown amount of gopro footage from the forementioned family holiday, i was hoping to do a 60 to 90 min long edit
not for youtube but for memories :woohoo:

i currently have a 5 min hockey video that i didnt optimise and it has about 200 gig of render files (that i will delete) but they are needed during editing

the footage is 1080 at 120 fps as some of those hockey moments make for good slo mo :lol:

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09 Mar 2015 06:11 #61057 by Karsten Schlüter

… but cant make 500 clams vanish prior to a family holiday :evil: (without being caught)…


yep, been there, family's Secretary of Finance is a complete ignorant when it comes to art!!! :silly:

Have a nice holiday … !

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09 Mar 2015 06:21 #61058 by Happyfingers
well karsten the el cheapo raid certainly works

i loaded up a library that was running poorly when on one toshiba casio 1tb

gave it a few minutes to populate the timeline and render a few things and it ran perfectly smooth
its fantastic :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

but having watched 2 hours of youtube evo ssd reviews today i think ill go that route later in the year, one overtime shift should cover it :whistle:

hmm 2 x ssd evo 500gb raid0 or 1 x ssd evo 1tb or 2 x ssd evo 1tb raid0 :evil: ??????????
then the toshi's can be used for storage

i have also just realised i have a desktop with 2 500gig drives in it that no one uses anymore that i could pull apart

someone said i could set it up as a nas if i knew what i was doing (but i dont) :blush: so i havnt :lol:

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09 Mar 2015 06:33 - 09 Mar 2015 06:34 #61059 by Karsten Schlüter

… hmm 2 x ssd evo 500gb raid0 or 1 x ssd evo 1tb or 2 x ssd evo 1tb raid0 :evil: ??????????
then the toshi's can be used for storage…



decisions, decisions …  :lol:

imho, for 'single source'-editing, a tb-connect SSD is 'best' = speed, reliability, no extra wires/boxes
Here, for my needs (MultiCam) I would prefer several drives.
Except my 4k material ... this weekend first time 'for real' in use = ~70min = 50gigs material just from 1 camera <gulp!>

low budget, sky high ambitions .... that's me! :lol:

just curious: you record everything only with a GoPro?? Isn't that a bit … weird (<< sorry, English is not my tongue, cannot find a better word) ? No long lens, no shallow focus, no 'normal' perspective, everything in 170°… ?
Last edit: 09 Mar 2015 06:34 by Karsten Schlüter.

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09 Mar 2015 10:43 #61062 by joema

Happyfingers wrote: Samsung 850 EVO 1TB Solid State Drive...
which i can get for $528....


Yes I have that one in my Windows machine -- it is extremely fast. If you only need 1TB, it is much faster than any affordable mechanical external drive.

You'd need a USB-to-SATA or Thunderbolt-to-SATA interface for the drive. Also it's a bare drive. It is not really intended to sit unprotected.

OWC has this $69 enclosure but it's Firewire/USB only: eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20...dHMg1kwSIaAtLo8P8HAQ

Here's a USB3-to-SATA docking station for $23: www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Lay-Flat...0A0WK0NZ9YBSAZ2VG2DX

Transcend has this entire 1TB USB3 drive for $440. It is somewhat slow for SSD (480/380 MB/sec), but that's still way faster than a mechanical drive. It's small and rugged: www.amazon.com/Transcend-External-Solid-...0K5PGGPBMJDCCCW39MBM

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09 Mar 2015 11:14 #61063 by Karsten Schlüter
"…You'd need a USB-to-SATA or Thunderbolt-to-SATA interface for the drive. Also it's a bare drive. It is not really intended to sit unprotected.…"

You get the Evos, ready to use, in a case, Samsung T1 Portable 1 TB USB 3.0 External SSD << link to amazon

568$ and no 'welding' needed.... ;)

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09 Mar 2015 12:28 #61065 by BenB
GoPro angle is adjustable, amazing video quality, goes underwater, rugged, various frame rates and speeds that are really useful, up to 4K video, and fantastic photos. Not every shot requires DOF, and there was a time those of us using DSLR type equipment were on mini-DV tape, and there was no way to get DOF except by going far away, and zooming way in, "if" you had a camera that would do that. Tons of GREAT stuff being shot on GoPro cameras. Nothing weird about using them at all. Over half of my studio's own shooting is with GoPros now. But then, half of what we do is aerial or in the water now.

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09 Mar 2015 12:51 #61066 by Karsten Schlüter

…Nothing weird about using them at all. …



Ben, I'm living in Old Europe, indeed, but that doesn't mean, I'm living behind the moon (as we phrase it) I know what GoPros are, and what you can accomplish with it ... ;)
One of the rare 'abos' I have at YT is the GoPro chanel ... awesome pictures. No doubt.

I never mentioned, using a GoPro is weird.

What I tried to express is: It is a bit beyond my imagination, to record a whole family vacation with a GoPro only. I know they offer some settings, not only 170°, but for example 'free hand' with such a tiny thingie without stabilizer ... hmm?


… you can really not hide you're a teacher!! :lol:
Appreciate you lesson, been there before ...
… 

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09 Mar 2015 16:19 #61079 by BenB
I record all of our family vacations only with a GoPro. I can let my young sons use it, my irresponsible teenager use it, not worry about it getting banged up. I know others who do it. Nothing wrong. Hand held? Really easy with a GoPro. It can tripod mount, there are dozens of rigs, including stabilizers (tiny ones, they're cute). "Family" with enough kids the right age, and I'd never risk my DSLR or BMD Cinema cameras to that sort of abuse and risk.

I'm just stating a fact of life, many of us do this, it isn't unusual in any way.

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09 Mar 2015 21:37 - 09 Mar 2015 21:38 #61093 by Happyfingers
weird is perfectly acceptable in the Australian Language :P

If fact weird is pretty tame compared to some other words we use in normal freindly conversation.

the only thing im not liking about thunderbolt is thunderbolt = + $100 with no benefit.
usb3 and thunderbolt are basically the same speed the only difference is + $100 (fair comment ?)

you can buy usb3 enclousures that are a perfect fit for the evo 850 and they cost like $15
havnt found any thunderbolt enclosure for the evo850
the usb3 enclosure is plug and play, no welding required. (the one i looked at anyway)
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09 Mar 2015 22:03 #61097 by BenB
I'd like to see a USB 3.0 RAID come close to my P2 16TB RAID. No, USB and T'bolt are not the same, sorry, I can't go along with that statement.

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09 Mar 2015 22:33 #61101 by Happyfingers

BenB wrote: I'd like to see a USB 3.0 RAID come close to my P2 16TB RAID. No, USB and T'bolt are not the same, sorry, I can't go along with that statement.


ok not looking to start a format war :P

but i went into a major apple store a few days ago to purchase a lacie and was told that usb3 and thunderbolt were the same speed, he then suggested after i explained the issue i was having to purchase a usb3 7200 portable hard drive and as such this wonderful thread began. :woohoo:

p2 eh ? i had to google that :P

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10 Mar 2015 00:23 #61107 by BenB
Yeah, as much as I love Apple stuff, and Apple retail stores, I've heard so much BS from those kids working in them, it ain't funny. I know what I've used in a studio myself.

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10 Mar 2015 09:02 #61115 by Scrubelicious
Would not surprise me LaCie drive Thunderbolt connection have the same speed as USB3. :evil:

It also surprises me how some people make it into the Apple Store after reading and hearing how Apple does there hiring. :unsure:

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10 Mar 2015 11:26 #61118 by BenB
How does Apple do their hiring?

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10 Mar 2015 11:28 - 10 Mar 2015 11:29 #61120 by MsJustine
The same way I would, job for friends..
That is how it is done in Africa..We have fake apple stores run by corrupt importers!!
Last edit: 10 Mar 2015 11:29 by MsJustine.

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10 Mar 2015 11:33 #61122 by Scrubelicious

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