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What does Logic Pro X signal for future FCPX updates?
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I think most specifically I'm wondering if we'll see any of the UI in Logic seep over to FCPX.
While new the Logic feels right at home with FCPX and Motion5, there are some notable differences.
There's less "chrome" on audio elements, no gloss and just a color gradient on each track. Speaking of which, wouldn't it be nice to see customizable colors for Roles in FCPX.
And of course, Stacked Tracks has me salivating for a structured organization of Roles in the Timeline. Collapsable, with a user defined order and color.
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Logic as an extension of FCPX was one theory that's been floated around for advanced audio editing/mixing. We're certainly not seeing that now. Perhaps that will change after an Apple update where you could have round-tripping. But that's all supposition.
So I don't think there's any reason to think Apple won't be expanding audio tools in FCPX. I would certainly love to see some of what's in the Logic X UI in Final Cut.
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But as to the original thread topic, I can see the next FCPX version also offering an an Apple designed iPad control surface, maybe to assist color correction or to control the transport functions.
I can also see the overall color UI design changing to fit in with Mavericks new look and as 'Dis...Pictures' mentions it would be nice to see color coded roles.
But overal i'm very impressed with Logic Pro X, and whilst I've not produced any music yet, I'm looking forward to my first session. All my old vers 9 files open easily and the design of the mixer is superb.
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When the get the FCPXML read bugs fixed.
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What type of Video Audio work would you undertake in Logic? Soundtracks? Mixdowns? Spot FX?
Just interested in how you use it - or will use it.
I managed to open a XML from FCPX but it took about 15 minutes to convert and split the audio into 260 tracks - very exciting!
Must be doing something wrong - but there is no real mention in the manual of FCPX XML in and apart from the fact that it exists.
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As I said, Apple's page is exclusively focused on musicians and album work, and until all the pieces are in place, there little point advertising it as a general purpose DAW.
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Edit: I also completely agree with dinerdog about exporting as roles for the time being.
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Tom Wolsky wrote: I guess this is not considered an upgrade for Logic Pro, but a new application. So no upgrade path from Logic Pro to Logic Pro X. $200 for all punters. Still no mechanism in the App Store for upgrades?
See here. I agree.
david-smith.org/blog/2013/07/16/apples-a...-on-upgrade-pricing/
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filmfreak3000 wrote: But, shouldn't it also be said that the full price now was the old upgrade price? Wasn't it $200 to go from Logic 8 to 9? Same thing with Final Cut. Going from 6 to 7 was $300. X was $300 flat. I really have a hard time complaining about those prices, honestly. Or that there is no upgrade pricing.
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In not a Logic user, I guess you are, would you say you are getting the equivalent of $200 benefit in increased productivity, in new features you can't do without, in application improvements, that are equivalent to a new $200 application? Improvements over Logic 9?
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Logic Pro X is a huge advance over Logic Pro, it is far more stable and attractive to use and they have unified the command UI interface to bring it more in line with the other Apple Pro applications.
I would imagine that Apple will charge for a substantial FCPX upgrade, but think it will be line with their present charging structure which is incredibly reasonable.
I would hope that existing FCPX users would get a rebate of some kind ( unlikely ) for all the Beta like testing
we've been carrying out over the last 2 years.
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Since the software is just as powerful and goes head-to-head with ProTools software, and ProTools 11 new is $699 at B&H (PT HD 11 $599, what?), LPX is literally a steal. Add to that no DVDs or serial numbers to keep track of. Yes, $199 is far and beyond worth it for LPX.
So you spend $500 MORE on ProTools. What exactly do you get in it that is worth $500 more?
P.S. The ProTools 11 "upgrade" price varies depending on what past version you're upgrading from, starting at $299 (from PT10 to PT11) up to $999 (from PTHD9 to PT11). So yeah, Avid has upgrades that cost more than a new package! Wonder why Avid is scraping for sales?
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• edited to add. $199 for LogicX. I wonder if Apple might drive the price of FCPX down even more. If 10.1 is coming in a few months, could it be $199 as well?
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