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Thunderbolt Pegasus2
08 Jan 2014 16:04 #38388
by jshels
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Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for a raid solution to use with FCPX and an iMac.
I had read on various forums that the Pegasus2 can be accessed simultaneously by two computers utilizing the two thunderbolt ports.
I can't find any information from Promise on using it like this and wanted to make sure it would work this way.
Has anybody had any experience using the Pegasus2 like this? In theory 2 editors could share the same media files at great speeds for a manageable price.
Thanks!
Jon
I'm looking for a raid solution to use with FCPX and an iMac.
I had read on various forums that the Pegasus2 can be accessed simultaneously by two computers utilizing the two thunderbolt ports.
I can't find any information from Promise on using it like this and wanted to make sure it would work this way.
Has anybody had any experience using the Pegasus2 like this? In theory 2 editors could share the same media files at great speeds for a manageable price.
Thanks!
Jon
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08 Jan 2014 18:18 #38417
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Thunderbolt Pegasus2
I am not aware of ANY T'bolt drive being able to be accessed by two hosts at the same time. Where did you get the information it was possible?
You can connect it to one Mac, and let that Mac share it over a network with other Macs. But that network has to access it through the single Mac host.
You can connect it to one Mac, and let that Mac share it over a network with other Macs. But that network has to access it through the single Mac host.
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08 Jan 2014 18:18 #38418
by cinemaloha
Replied by cinemaloha on topic Thunderbolt Pegasus2
I've heard of this with the first Pegasus version but haven't personally tried it.
If you are daisy-chained or TB Bridge Networked ( arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9-...nderbolt-networking/ ) with Mavericks, I don't see why two Macs cannot access the same Pegasus (1 or 2).
If you are daisy-chained or TB Bridge Networked ( arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9-...nderbolt-networking/ ) with Mavericks, I don't see why two Macs cannot access the same Pegasus (1 or 2).
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08 Jan 2014 19:45 #38447
by jshels
Replied by jshels on topic Thunderbolt Pegasus2
I've read older posts about it on a number of forums including the Apple Support boards but have not seen anything recent.
I hadn't thought of using TB Bridge. I guess that would deliver the same speed and results!
Thanks for your quick reply.
I hadn't thought of using TB Bridge. I guess that would deliver the same speed and results!
Thanks for your quick reply.
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08 Jan 2014 20:07 #38458
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Thunderbolt Pegasus2
T'bolt Bride is simply networking two host computers together. Still, only one can host the RAID.
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09 Jan 2014 00:18 #38500
by jshels
Replied by jshels on topic Thunderbolt Pegasus2
Ben - even though one computer is hosting the raid can the other one not still access it as a shared drive?
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09 Jan 2014 02:08 - 09 Jan 2014 02:10 #38511
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Thunderbolt Pegasus2
Yes, that's what I've been saying. Typical network configuration.
But you can not run two T'bolt cables, one from each of a RAID's two ports, to two different Macs at the same time.
But you can not run two T'bolt cables, one from each of a RAID's two ports, to two different Macs at the same time.
Last edit: 09 Jan 2014 02:10 by BenB.
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09 Jan 2014 02:40 - 09 Jan 2014 02:45 #38517
by Topher5
Replied by Topher5 on topic Thunderbolt Pegasus2
It would seem the smart people over at creative cow might be doing a story on this very subject.
forums.creativecow.net/thread/292/3115
Here is interesting information that confirms that this is possible without the use of SAN Protocol
discussions.apple.com/thread/3299162
Apple says that you can connect two Apple Devices to a Promise 12 TB Raid device. So you should be good for connecting your iMac and MBA using two Thunderbolt cables to the two thunderbolt ports on the Promise 12TB Raid device.
There is no switching protocol built into Thunderbolt, but there is a switching protocol in the embedded Raid system. With the HFS format, the two computers will only be able to work on different documents, you might be able to view what is happening to the document on another Mac but you will not be able to simultaneously edit the same document unless you bank up on four HDDs using Raid 5 where OS X Lion would use localised versions on the Promise 12TB Raid device. This is very simple to do but would need a localising protocol programme.
We are not talking about a dumb drive we are talking about a smart RAID device.
forums.creativecow.net/thread/292/3115
Here is interesting information that confirms that this is possible without the use of SAN Protocol
discussions.apple.com/thread/3299162
Apple says that you can connect two Apple Devices to a Promise 12 TB Raid device. So you should be good for connecting your iMac and MBA using two Thunderbolt cables to the two thunderbolt ports on the Promise 12TB Raid device.
There is no switching protocol built into Thunderbolt, but there is a switching protocol in the embedded Raid system. With the HFS format, the two computers will only be able to work on different documents, you might be able to view what is happening to the document on another Mac but you will not be able to simultaneously edit the same document unless you bank up on four HDDs using Raid 5 where OS X Lion would use localised versions on the Promise 12TB Raid device. This is very simple to do but would need a localising protocol programme.
We are not talking about a dumb drive we are talking about a smart RAID device.
Last edit: 09 Jan 2014 02:45 by Topher5.
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09 Jan 2014 07:59 - 09 Jan 2014 08:02 #38530
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Thunderbolt Pegasus2
I would like to know where Apple makes such a claim that two hosts can share one T'bolt device.
Promise says nothing about switching built in to their controller cards. It isn't in any RAIDS they've made so far, I doubt it is in the new P2 line.
As far as RAID itself, it has no switching protocols built in to it's scheme. That's something that happens outside of the RAID environment.
And any network would work, not only XSAN. That's no big deal, just having one Mac share a drive. But, you'd need a SAN for "editing in place", otherwise you'd need to download media to your local drive to work.
Promise says nothing about switching built in to their controller cards. It isn't in any RAIDS they've made so far, I doubt it is in the new P2 line.
As far as RAID itself, it has no switching protocols built in to it's scheme. That's something that happens outside of the RAID environment.
And any network would work, not only XSAN. That's no big deal, just having one Mac share a drive. But, you'd need a SAN for "editing in place", otherwise you'd need to download media to your local drive to work.
Last edit: 09 Jan 2014 08:02 by BenB.
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