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Match Colour issues
15 Jun 2012 14:03 #9855
by Seanus
Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011
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We had a test screening of the mini docs I've been cutting today. Projected in a cinema off a Barco Cinema projector and with some shots I was shocked by how much banding I was seeing.
Went back to FCP X and found that all the shots showing the banding were ones which I had used the 'match colour' function on. Looking at the waveform you can clearly see the steps, it's like FCP X samples with fairly large increments. Removing the match and grading manually significantly reduced the amount of banding present.
I only used Match as quick solution before the screening but this could be a real trap if you're not aware of what it's doing. Use with caution.
Went back to FCP X and found that all the shots showing the banding were ones which I had used the 'match colour' function on. Looking at the waveform you can clearly see the steps, it's like FCP X samples with fairly large increments. Removing the match and grading manually significantly reduced the amount of banding present.
I only used Match as quick solution before the screening but this could be a real trap if you're not aware of what it's doing. Use with caution.
Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011
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15 Jun 2012 18:50 #9862
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Re: Match Colour issues
Please fill out the feedback form and tell Apple! That is significant!
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15 Jun 2012 19:54 #9866
by mliebergot
Replied by mliebergot on topic Re: Match Colour issues
Personally I don't use match color that often as the results generally aren't good for me. As they don't come close to matching. It works sometimes. But more often than not it's faster to manually do it myself.
On the matching note, I wish that Apple would bring back the eye dropper, either for white balance, or in regards to match color, the color match dropper for individual highlight, mids, and shadows. This always worked like a charm for me to matchup clips.
On the matching note, I wish that Apple would bring back the eye dropper, either for white balance, or in regards to match color, the color match dropper for individual highlight, mids, and shadows. This always worked like a charm for me to matchup clips.
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15 Jun 2012 20:00 #9867
by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic Re: Match Colour issues
Color pickers of some sort would be nice. I must though the match color functions works much better for me, at least with the media I've used, than the match hue function in the previous versions.
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15 Jun 2012 20:18 #9869
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Re: Match Colour issues
What format are your Render files set to?
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16 Jun 2012 04:03 #9892
by Seanus
Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011
Replied by Seanus on topic Re: Match Colour issues
Footage is Canon XF rendering to ProRes. But you don't even need to render to see the issue. I'll post feedback.
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16 Jun 2012 04:11 #9894
by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic Re: Match Colour issues
Any chances you could post a small piece of the video somewhere. Thanks. Understand if you can't.
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16 Jun 2012 05:03 - 16 Jun 2012 05:09 #9895
by Seanus
Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011
Replied by Seanus on topic Re: Match Colour issues
Can't post any video just yet. But here's a couple of screen grabs.
There is a lot going on in the match and maybe this is the problem. The banding is there but it's just making it a lot more obvious.
There is a lot going on in the match and maybe this is the problem. The banding is there but it's just making it a lot more obvious.
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16 Jun 2012 05:33 #9896
by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic Re: Match Colour issues
You sure that's right. The stair stepping looks much more pronounced in image marked manual.jpg. Pretty shot, but those sky gradients can be pesky.
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16 Jun 2012 05:48 #9897
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Re: Match Colour issues
Better yet, I'd like to see two more screen shots. One of this same clip/frame opened in QT Player 7. The other with scopes like this with nothing done to it at all. No corrections, nothing. Just to give a good baseline for comparison, eliminate anything pre-FCP.
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16 Jun 2012 07:54 #9898
by Seanus
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Replied by Seanus on topic Re: Match Colour issues
Strange I don't know how that happened but the names got swapped somehow.
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16 Jun 2012 20:33 #9908
by Disproportionate Pictures
Replied by Disproportionate Pictures on topic Re: Match Colour issues
A manual white balance picker for the colour board is definitely something I'm missing vs the legacy 3way Color Corrector.
I have to say that after using it on a couple of jobs, I don't hate the colour board.
I have to say that after using it on a couple of jobs, I don't hate the colour board.
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