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Need help to find this Lens Flare
13 May 2012 01:34 #8366
by Machado
Need help to find this Lens Flare was created by Machado
There is this horizontal blue lens flare you see in movies...
(J J Abrams uses it a lot in "Super 8")
Anybody knows of a plugin to recreate it?
I found this video, but it was made with FCP 7
I use FCP X
(J J Abrams uses it a lot in "Super 8")
Anybody knows of a plugin to recreate it?
I found this video, but it was made with FCP 7
I use FCP X
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13 May 2012 04:36 #8377
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I have a plug in from Motion VFX called MLooks2 and it has an effect called "blue streak" among 40 others. Blue streak is the same as this effect ( it may be what he is using here) It costs about 50 bucks for the package. I have MLooks 1 and 2 and find them useful. I'm sure there is some way to create this but I am a beginner so I buy them already created. Hope that info helps you. Here is the website.
www.motionvfx.com/
Sometimes the good folks in this community will be so kind as to create upon request......you never know :P
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13 May 2012 05:49 #8389
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Motion, not a huge deal.
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16 May 2012 01:43 #8502
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Also check out motionvfx
mFlare
for Apple Motion and Final Cut Pro X plus other compatible Application like Photoshop and Co.
If you are rolling with After Effects there is also VideoCopilot Optical Flares .
You can build them yourself if you want to take it on.
If you are rolling with After Effects there is also VideoCopilot Optical Flares .
You can build them yourself if you want to take it on.
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16 May 2012 03:13 #8510
by Machado
Replied by Machado on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Hey guys! thanks for your motionvfx recommendation.
I noticed they have a demo version. It says "motion 5"
Do you know if it would work on FCP X ?
I noticed they have a demo version. It says "motion 5"
Do you know if it would work on FCP X ?
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16 May 2012 03:23 #8511
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As mentioned
yes it does if both Final Cut Pro X and mFlare are up to date.
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16 May 2012 12:25 - 16 May 2012 12:30 #8524
by simonpwood
Replied by simonpwood on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
The actual effect they are trying to emulate with these blue streaks is an anamorphic lens flare (or anamorphic streak), that would naturally occur in a lot of older blockbuster movies due to the light bending properties of the lenses they were using, but only if there were practical lights on set pointed towards the camera.
A lot of Spielberg movies had them, as did Cameron movies, and John Carpenter movies. The funny thing is that a lot of effort was made to try and avoid them normally (unless they wanted to create a sic-fi effect).
These days they can be created artificially with the above plug ins (and also consider magic Bullet Looks which has an anamorphic effect). But remember they should really only be used when the light is on screen and pointed towards the camera. A lot of videos (like that music video) put in that effect when it should not be there, so you just get fake blue smears for no practical reason.
Its a totally overused effect though; even mainstream Hollywood directors can get over enthusiastic about it (think of Star Trek by JJ Abrams...)
Here are some genuine anamorphic streaks:
From 'Aliens':
From 'The Thing':
From 'Christine':
As seen above; all genuine anamorphic streaks have a practical light source.
A lot of Spielberg movies had them, as did Cameron movies, and John Carpenter movies. The funny thing is that a lot of effort was made to try and avoid them normally (unless they wanted to create a sic-fi effect).
These days they can be created artificially with the above plug ins (and also consider magic Bullet Looks which has an anamorphic effect). But remember they should really only be used when the light is on screen and pointed towards the camera. A lot of videos (like that music video) put in that effect when it should not be there, so you just get fake blue smears for no practical reason.
Its a totally overused effect though; even mainstream Hollywood directors can get over enthusiastic about it (think of Star Trek by JJ Abrams...)
Here are some genuine anamorphic streaks:
From 'Aliens':
From 'The Thing':
From 'Christine':
As seen above; all genuine anamorphic streaks have a practical light source.
Last edit: 16 May 2012 12:30 by simonpwood.
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16 May 2012 16:45 #8535
by Seanus
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Replied by Seanus on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Another thumbs up for mFlare. Amazing program at an amazing price.
It'll do what you want.
It works in both FCP X and Motion but if you want to use tracking then Motion is the way to go.
Once I got it I had a play around with some video I shot of my daughter growing up.
Check it out. It's over used but I was just mucking around.
It'll do what you want.
It works in both FCP X and Motion but if you want to use tracking then Motion is the way to go.
Once I got it I had a play around with some video I shot of my daughter growing up.
Check it out. It's over used but I was just mucking around.
Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011
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16 May 2012 18:08 #8536
by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Very nice. Even home videos from pros are fun to watch. Is the bokeh from FCP? The horizontal flare toward the end , is that mFlare?
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16 May 2012 18:12 #8537
by Seanus
Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011
Replied by Seanus on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Yes on both counts!
This was when mFlare first came out. Some of the new flares are just amazing, and totally customisable. So you could JJA to hearts content. :lol:
This was when mFlare first came out. Some of the new flares are just amazing, and totally customisable. So you could JJA to hearts content. :lol:
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16 May 2012 18:35 #8539
by jdm4given1
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Here is a video I did for a crossfit gym. I used many of the great effects by the members of this community and also MFlare as mentioned above. I know it is not very professional but I did it on a flip camera.....thats how I roll 
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16 May 2012 22:26 #8557
by mobiletaylor
Replied by mobiletaylor on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Looks like Knoll Light Factory 3 should be out this summer. I assume FCPX compatibility? Anyone know anything about this? It's the industry standard isn't it?
JT
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16 May 2012 22:29 #8558
by Machado
Replied by Machado on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Hey everybody! Thank you very much for sharing your observations, recommendations and videos. JDM4GIVEN1, I love the fact that you used a flip to shoot the J1:9 video...It inspires me!
When I was a kid, I used to think "How come they don't do something to avoid those lights".
For me, it would take the feeling away from the reality of the movie.
But then, I started to notice that in some cases, it would ADD emotion to the scene.
Now, although I'm limited with tools, I would like to create certain type of "feel" with the support of these plugins.
Talking about tools...I have FCP X 10.
After downloading the demo version of mFlare I realized I need to upgrade to 10.0.3
So, I decided to trash the plugin...the whole thing!
Now, I'm having an inconvenient...every time I open FCP X I get these notifications saying that I need to upgrade to 10.0.3 - but it's not one notification. It's a bunch of them! since the demo version is a package of different plugins.
Any advice on this?
When I was a kid, I used to think "How come they don't do something to avoid those lights".
For me, it would take the feeling away from the reality of the movie.
But then, I started to notice that in some cases, it would ADD emotion to the scene.
Now, although I'm limited with tools, I would like to create certain type of "feel" with the support of these plugins.
Talking about tools...I have FCP X 10.
After downloading the demo version of mFlare I realized I need to upgrade to 10.0.3
So, I decided to trash the plugin...the whole thing!
Now, I'm having an inconvenient...every time I open FCP X I get these notifications saying that I need to upgrade to 10.0.3 - but it's not one notification. It's a bunch of them! since the demo version is a package of different plugins.
Any advice on this?
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16 May 2012 22:34 #8559
by Scrubelicious
Replied by Scrubelicious on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Is there a reason why you are not updating? You should be on 10.0.4.
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16 May 2012 22:53 #8560
by Machado
Replied by Machado on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Every time I talk about this is a bit awkward.
I'm not in the position to invest any more at this moment, yet I'm trying to learn to the best of my ability. This is why I request for free plugins and attempt to download "demo versions".
I have an old MacBook Pro running on 10.6.8 with 4GB and FCP X 10.
I'm not in the position to invest any more at this moment, yet I'm trying to learn to the best of my ability. This is why I request for free plugins and attempt to download "demo versions".
I have an old MacBook Pro running on 10.6.8 with 4GB and FCP X 10.
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17 May 2012 02:41 #8570
by Seanus
Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011
Replied by Seanus on topic Re: Need help to find this Lens Flare
Pirated copy of FCP X is the only reason you don't upgrade.
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