So what about Motion, Color and Soundtrack

I am maybe unusual in that I have gone out of my to try and stay in the Apple fold and use most of the Pro Apps for what I do.

Motion has served me well, but can be very buggy. I love color - but could do without the roundtripping to solve minor stuff - and the same goes for soundtrack.

Will Motion etc. be launched at the same time as FCP X, or months later?

The the part that really excites with FCP X, is If all the projects are built on the same code and apple do it right you could literally have ROOMS (like Color) where you have a universal timeline - but edit in one room, do sound in another, a grade in another and effects in yet another. All non destructively and in realtime. no more post production round-tripping.

Maybe that is still years off, but a man can dream...

We didn't know Motion was even going to exist until we saw those screengrabs of the new GUI.
As for SoundTrack it looks like there is 5.1 mixing in FCPX so who knows.

I'll let somebody else take up the Color trail...

Seems like a lot of people are bothered by the idea of Color being folded into FCP. I'm not one of them. I use color quite a bit but it kind of buggy and the interface is kind of hard to deal with sometimes. I was really hoping Apple would have redesigned the interface with the last revision. But if FCP has all the Color functionality built in to it it makes FCP an even better value than most people think it is now. So I could see Color, Soundtrack, and Compressor being built into FCP and Motion makes more sense as a stand alone app. I'd be cool with that if it all worked.

Color is not folded into FCP...I guarantee!!

I can't imagine that the feature set of color made it into FCPX. I am sure some features made it in but they wouldn't kill off such a powerful app. Especially when it is really making its way into the indie/Hollywood world. The last feature I worked on was graded in color at Hollywood DI the colorist there was really excited about the feature set. It was his excitement that made me want to learn color. Now most of my projects go to color very few just get the color treatment in FCP. And I know a few tv shows are graded at post logic in color.

Who's excited for an update to Compressor!!??

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Damn, maybe I'm the only one...

In my book it would not make since for Apple to kill off Color...
Why buy a Application that was thousands of dollar for puchase (end user) and almost give it away in the final cut studio 7? Then take bits an peaces of this technology and put it in FCPX?
But again Apple did this with Shake!
So commsince that's to apply here.

BUT I would love to see Color as separate App so we can have the gradient be done and free up the fcp for editing.

I was half-hoping that FCPX would take a leaf out of Autodesk Smokes book. Pick the appropriate tool to work with (context sensitive) but, still be in FCP. No more round-tripping. Infact, didn't Apple once do something similar (many moons ago) with Claris Works?

Interesting to note that Robbie Carmine, a big Color advocate, recently got himself into Resolve. Was he spreading his wings or, does he know something we don't? We should know sometime this week. :blink:

going the smoke route would make a whole bunch of sense (as long as it worked).

i'm thinking the pro apps could work independently but also in unison if they were opened at the same time.

Smoke is great for cutting promos/commercials/short form and the non round tripping is a very freeing experience. Be interesting to see something like that designed to work for long form content. you would need to have a clear workflow to not get too distracted - but being able to play in the middle of an edit could lead to creative decisions that may otherwise never have occurred to you.

I guess thats my dream post production suite anyway.

Motion and Compression now is alone app
Apple Announces Final Cut Pro X, Motion 5, and Compressor 4 Available Today

Dont forget, if you own a copy of Logic Pro 9, you will already have soundtrack Pro. Will it work with FCPX though?
No DVD studio in FCPX. Not needed or do we need to look for an other non apple app?

Looks like Color and STP got folded into FCP. Compressor and Motion are only $49 each! Didn't see that coming! Bargain!

Even so, I don't believe it that Color will ever see the light again.
There is no confirmation that Color is dead.

Soundtrack well if you can put all audio tools in Final Cut, then give Logic the rest of the magic.