Serious title problem in 10.0.3

In 10.0.3 titles that have Build In/Out cannot be moved. They now appear to get keyframed if you move the content. For instance, the Overlap lower third. If you shift the text to the left to accommodate a lengthy name, the text then drifts across the screen as if keyframes have been added. Because you have to do it when you're half way through the title, you can't do it at the beginning or end it seems that keyframes are being added. This did not happen in any previous version of FCP. This is not good. Basically all Build In/Out titles are probably locked to the current positions. I suspect this is happening because of the change in the inspector keyframing method from Motion procedures to FCP procedures. Sounded good, but it looks like it may have ruined a lot of the Motion template titles.

Well I had an issue just last night trying to reposition a lower third from a Motion template and I thought I was going crazy. Perhaps this explains it. Hadn't noticed it before.

I don't get this problem, it works properly for me.

But while I was checking I noticed another problem. If I make the title long enough to go off the edge of the screen, then reposition, it doesn't show what was outside the screen. It just moves it over showing half a letter cut off and nothing after.

If I reposition then type it treats where the edge used to be as the edge, even though it's now somewhere on screen.

You're repositioning using the transform function. That's not how you reposition titles. You double click the text and a target appears under the text. Drag the target to reposition. Try it with the Overlap lower third.

Cheers, that'll help for when it's fixed, for now I'm getting that same drift right enough. It's only on the x axis. If I make a vertical position adjustment it acts normally.

Whew. Thought I was going mad. Had a Four Corners build that 10.03 stuffed up but I can't reposition the text to save myself.

Obviously I don't want to use the transform tool because the texts exits off screen so you'd see the false line.

Is there a solution?

I was hoping to get a look into this today, but I won't get the chance. Could you open it in Motion and set everything up in there. Not ideal, but if it's important.

I've uploaded a fixed version of 'Overlap' to my blog.

Download it from here .

Thanks Alex. What was causing the problem?

As Final Cut Pro X has a copy of Motion built into it, the fact that Motion adds keyframes every time you modify a parameter value also applies in FCP.

The standard version of 'Overlap' has keyframes that say 'start here' 'By this point in time, move here' for the build in phase and 'Be here at this point in time' and 'move elsewhere' keyframe at the end of the template timeline.

Moving a text element of a title in Final Cut Pro 10.0.3 and later adds a keyframe at that point. This means that the text will move from it's resting position to your new position and back again by the end of the clip.

My modified version of 'Overlap' uses behaviours: 'Move from a specific co-ordinate off the screen to a resting position' and 'Move from your resting position to a specific co-ordinate off the screen.' That means the position parameter for the text element has no keyframes. This means that moving the element doesn't add a new keyframe - where you move it to becomes its new 'resting position'

Thanks again Alex. I thought the change in the keyframe behavior was the cause of the problem.

NocoDave wrote: I was hoping to get a look into this today, but I won't get the chance. Could you open it in Motion and set everything up in there. Not ideal, but if it's important.

Yes I've opened it up in Motion to get at the parameters I needed. Hopefully there's a fix for this soon. Don't want to use Motion all the time for these things.

I've produced a version of 'Four Corners' that doesn't use keyframes in Motion, so should allow trouble-free repositioning of individual text elements.

I also sorted out the text alignment fault...

Download it from my blog .

Thanks so much!!