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Fixing bad skin / tan or no tan? Quick adjustments ideas....
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13 Dec 2020 13:28 #111455
by Cameron Jake
I am pale, I use Tom Ford tinted moisturiser - looks bad on camera some shoots - looks ok in real life.
When I make any amendments to the colour the tan looks bad, but I CAN correct orange by lifting the blue hues.
IYO would you prefer to work with a natural face with nothing ? i.e. is it easier to warm up the colour of a scene including quite pale faces with no make up or bad man tan?
Excluding lighting i.e. ring lights, these are run and gun shoots.
Obviously I am working on wide lens options as these tend not to pick out skin imperfections / age / wrinkles etc
I have a feeling a pale face slightly colourised in post ( not a lut - these are vlogs ) might look better than tan and make up?
When I make any amendments to the colour the tan looks bad, but I CAN correct orange by lifting the blue hues.
IYO would you prefer to work with a natural face with nothing ? i.e. is it easier to warm up the colour of a scene including quite pale faces with no make up or bad man tan?
Excluding lighting i.e. ring lights, these are run and gun shoots.
Obviously I am working on wide lens options as these tend not to pick out skin imperfections / age / wrinkles etc
I have a feeling a pale face slightly colourised in post ( not a lut - these are vlogs ) might look better than tan and make up?
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13 Dec 2020 15:07 #111457
by JoeEditor
Replied by JoeEditor on topic Fixing bad skin / tan or no tan? Quick adjustments ideas....
If you're pale, be pale, why fake what you look like? But I have seen some make-up specialists make lighter skin a tad darker for the camera. You need to research or locate a make-up professional. Doing it in post will give you some effect, but be limited, and time-consuming. You'd use the curves to isolate your face color, adjust, and hope nothing else in the shot is affected too badly. But I'd say go with the make-up solution, you'd get better quality results.
The minute anyone says any variation of "fix it in post" on my shoots, I fire them.
The minute anyone says any variation of "fix it in post" on my shoots, I fire them.
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13 Dec 2020 15:32 #111460
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Replied by Cameron Jake on topic Fixing bad skin / tan or no tan? Quick adjustments ideas....
Ha ha - ok good idea - I will experiment with various - "be a man - no tan" is the phrase that pays.
I have to look at the edit and I don't like what I look like - if you wanna make it in TV in media - look as good as you can - dreadful but true
Scottish blood mate - looks unhealthy - I have a nice natural health colour today using make up - I will keep trying -
The tom ford man bronzer is probably too heavy for my skin.
I have to look at the edit and I don't like what I look like - if you wanna make it in TV in media - look as good as you can - dreadful but true
Scottish blood mate - looks unhealthy - I have a nice natural health colour today using make up - I will keep trying -
The tom ford man bronzer is probably too heavy for my skin.
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13 Dec 2020 16:17 - 13 Dec 2020 16:18 #111463
by JoeEditor
Replied by JoeEditor on topic Fixing bad skin / tan or no tan? Quick adjustments ideas....
Looking tan is so 80's anyway. As someone in TV broadcast, I don't know anyone who tries to change the color of their skin at all anymore. When I first started (many, many, many years go) maybe a few, but not today. It's frowned upon in these parts. Looking good is grooming, posture, voice, skin tone really isn't as important. As long as you powder to stop the shine from lights. I don't know what you look like, I'd have to see a photo, but honestly, having shot my share of TV personalities, skin tone isn't what people pay attention to anymore. At least not in my experience.
Never judge your own looks, get someone who has produced television for awhile to review your shots and advise. We are our own worst critics, and you should always ask others what they think of your look on camera. I obviously strongly disagree anyone needs to darken or lighten their skin to make it in TV anymore. Don't get the reputation of the guy who uses make-up to succeed. Fans hate that, producers try to avoid that.
Never judge your own looks, get someone who has produced television for awhile to review your shots and advise. We are our own worst critics, and you should always ask others what they think of your look on camera. I obviously strongly disagree anyone needs to darken or lighten their skin to make it in TV anymore. Don't get the reputation of the guy who uses make-up to succeed. Fans hate that, producers try to avoid that.
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13 Dec 2020 19:40 - 13 Dec 2020 19:40 #111465
by joema
If the material was shot using a log or flat profile, use the correct camera LUT as 1st step in restoring proper sat and contrast. After that make sure skin tone is correct by cropping to a skin patch and using the vector scope. See below Larry Jordan video.
You can easily use the "orange" FCP hue/sat curve to tweak skin color -- just do it subtly.
Another easy method is place a shape mask on the face (from within the color board or color wheels effects) to adjust contrast, exposure, etc. Each shape mask has an "inside" and "outside" setting, so (if needed) you can easily produce a subtle vignette by lowering background exposure.
If you want blemish or wrinkle reduction, the best plugin is Imagenomic Portraiture, but it is expensive. It is also very compute-intensive, as is typical of advanced plugins like Neat Video and Digital Anarchy Flicker Free. We normally use this on female subjects but it is very adjustable and can produce natural-looking understated results on either gender.
Imagenomic Portraiture for video: imagenomic.com/Products/VideoSuite
Larry Jordan FCP color correction using scopes:
Replied by joema on topic Fixing bad skin / tan or no tan? Quick adjustments ideas....
Cameron Jake wrote: I am pale, I use Tom Ford tinted moisturiser - looks bad on camera some shoots - looks ok in real life...
If the material was shot using a log or flat profile, use the correct camera LUT as 1st step in restoring proper sat and contrast. After that make sure skin tone is correct by cropping to a skin patch and using the vector scope. See below Larry Jordan video.
You can easily use the "orange" FCP hue/sat curve to tweak skin color -- just do it subtly.
Another easy method is place a shape mask on the face (from within the color board or color wheels effects) to adjust contrast, exposure, etc. Each shape mask has an "inside" and "outside" setting, so (if needed) you can easily produce a subtle vignette by lowering background exposure.
If you want blemish or wrinkle reduction, the best plugin is Imagenomic Portraiture, but it is expensive. It is also very compute-intensive, as is typical of advanced plugins like Neat Video and Digital Anarchy Flicker Free. We normally use this on female subjects but it is very adjustable and can produce natural-looking understated results on either gender.
Imagenomic Portraiture for video: imagenomic.com/Products/VideoSuite
Larry Jordan FCP color correction using scopes:
Last edit: 13 Dec 2020 19:40 by joema.
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14 Dec 2020 13:28 #111475
by cseeman
Replied by cseeman on topic Fixing bad skin / tan or no tan? Quick adjustments ideas....
Speaking of Digital Anarchy there
Beauty Box
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