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Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
30 Sep 2019 20:52 #101715
by mgmartino
Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X was created by mgmartino
Is there a way to use Final Cut Pro as the Master time code and sync it to logic as the slave?
I have done it in the past syncing Pro Tools and Logic. But now it would improve my workflow a lot to integrate FCPX with LPX. I am scoring this 4 minute video. And as I am scoring sometimes I find I want to tweak the timing of titles or edits in FC. It would be so much easier to do that in real time if they were sync'd rather then going back editing the video, making a not of where to make the changes, reimporting a new vid file, etc...
This is what I am referring to with logic syncing
support.apple.com/kb/PH13347?locale=en_US
I have done it in the past syncing Pro Tools and Logic. But now it would improve my workflow a lot to integrate FCPX with LPX. I am scoring this 4 minute video. And as I am scoring sometimes I find I want to tweak the timing of titles or edits in FC. It would be so much easier to do that in real time if they were sync'd rather then going back editing the video, making a not of where to make the changes, reimporting a new vid file, etc...
This is what I am referring to with logic syncing
support.apple.com/kb/PH13347?locale=en_US
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01 Oct 2019 09:23 #101718
by Axel
Replied by Axel on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
I‘d like to learn more about that: the integration of Logic with FCPX.
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03 Oct 2019 22:35 #101753
by mgmartino
Replied by mgmartino on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
...Anyone have suggestions??
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04 Oct 2019 12:03 #101763
by petersxs
Replied by petersxs on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
hI i did this with final cut pro 7 a long time ago (with 2 different computers ) and would also like to do that nowwih fcpx
basically you have 2 options , external or internal ( external with hardware like motu timepiece )
ext i have a motu timepice, and with that logic has the ability to slave to an incoming timecode .....
the question would be how to get tx out of fcpx ?
internal.-- tc sync , since fxpX does not have midi , ( FCP7 Had more ) you can look into
command post m which adds midi to fcpX ( i have not tried this yet )
I FOUND this help.commandpost.io/midi/logic
look at this version ... maybe it works , tell me if it does !!
basically you have 2 options , external or internal ( external with hardware like motu timepiece )
ext i have a motu timepice, and with that logic has the ability to slave to an incoming timecode .....
the question would be how to get tx out of fcpx ?
internal.-- tc sync , since fxpX does not have midi , ( FCP7 Had more ) you can look into
command post m which adds midi to fcpX ( i have not tried this yet )
I FOUND this help.commandpost.io/midi/logic
look at this version ... maybe it works , tell me if it does !!
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05 Oct 2019 13:53 #101795
by Axel
Replied by Axel on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
What I gather from this is that there is no legit protocol to exchange edits (in the broadest sense) between these two applications. Which discourages me . After all this time that‘s a disappointment ...
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05 Oct 2019 15:01 #101797
by JoeEditor
Replied by JoeEditor on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
And the XML workflow between the two isn't easy enough? I'm just asking as I'm curious, I've not done that a lot.
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05 Oct 2019 20:04 #101801
by Axel
Replied by Axel on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
I don‘t have LPX (yet). I don‘t know if I would ever make good use of it. In the last decade, I made the occasional „score“ - very limited, just moody snippets, importing midi files into Garageband and playing around with synthetic instruments, without ever trying to synch it directly to my sound edit from FCP or later FCP X.
FCP X facilitates very complex sound design, insofar as every tiniest sound event stays firmly connected to it’s corresponding image/scene, no matter how many of them you stack, without the need to manage tracks.
As you can see from this comment, I don‘t have a serious audio background, and although I once bought and saw Larry Jordans tutorials on Soundtrack, I never felt the urge to use it. When others complained that FCP X didn‘t have an audio mixer, I thought, so what?
But I am willing to improve my skills. When before last year‘s Creative Summit there was an announcement for a demonstration of LPX and FCP X workflows (hosted by Mark Spencer, I believe), I was very interested. But there was no such topic eventually.
There seems to be no real use for LPX for FCP other than composing music. Is that a fair assumption?
FCP X facilitates very complex sound design, insofar as every tiniest sound event stays firmly connected to it’s corresponding image/scene, no matter how many of them you stack, without the need to manage tracks.
As you can see from this comment, I don‘t have a serious audio background, and although I once bought and saw Larry Jordans tutorials on Soundtrack, I never felt the urge to use it. When others complained that FCP X didn‘t have an audio mixer, I thought, so what?
But I am willing to improve my skills. When before last year‘s Creative Summit there was an announcement for a demonstration of LPX and FCP X workflows (hosted by Mark Spencer, I believe), I was very interested. But there was no such topic eventually.
There seems to be no real use for LPX for FCP other than composing music. Is that a fair assumption?
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05 Oct 2019 20:51 #101804
by JoeEditor
Replied by JoeEditor on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
If you have a lot of audio, it makes mixing and mastering MUCH easier. FCPX's weakest link right now is lack of any audio mixing tools.
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06 Oct 2019 04:18 #101816
by mgmartino
Replied by mgmartino on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
The XML workflow would not solve my issue. I would like to be able to move around clips and titles while also move around audio elements, adjusting tempo, etc.
When I import score/music into FCPX I can edit the video but limited in editing the score. When I import FCPX (Video) into Logic I can edit all the music but none of the video. I want to be able to edit either pending on which seems more viable to make the edit to. Does that make sense?
If we could get FCPX to output MIDI TC or some other way that would be great.
FCPX has time code. And Logic has Time Code as well.. I don't know why the two can't sync using the standard time code values...
00:00:00.0 ( Min : Sec : Frames . SubFrames )
*don't really need the subframes but logic uses them so whatever.
When I import score/music into FCPX I can edit the video but limited in editing the score. When I import FCPX (Video) into Logic I can edit all the music but none of the video. I want to be able to edit either pending on which seems more viable to make the edit to. Does that make sense?
If we could get FCPX to output MIDI TC or some other way that would be great.
FCPX has time code. And Logic has Time Code as well.. I don't know why the two can't sync using the standard time code values...
00:00:00.0 ( Min : Sec : Frames . SubFrames )
*don't really need the subframes but logic uses them so whatever.
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06 Oct 2019 09:47 #101829
by JoeEditor
Replied by JoeEditor on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
Sub-Frames are necessary with any audio, as it is sampled at a much, much higher rate than "frames" are.
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06 Oct 2019 11:10 #101835
by mgmartino
Replied by mgmartino on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
Pro Tools doesn't use sub-frames in it's Time code
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10 Oct 2019 00:42 #101958
by Emmanuel
Replied by Emmanuel on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
LPX doesn’t even open properly the packages exported by X2Pro
LPX and FCPX are practically useless together and it’s a never ending disappointment.
The only proper workflow is FCPX and ProTools.
This being said, you can do more than most people think within FCPX with the proper use of audio lanes and compound clips.
But yes , I can’t stop dreaming of a proper mixer in FCPX, which should be possible with the audio lanes
LPX and FCPX are practically useless together and it’s a never ending disappointment.
The only proper workflow is FCPX and ProTools.
This being said, you can do more than most people think within FCPX with the proper use of audio lanes and compound clips.
But yes , I can’t stop dreaming of a proper mixer in FCPX, which should be possible with the audio lanes
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10 Oct 2019 05:23 #101962
by JoeEditor
Replied by JoeEditor on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
X2Pro formats FCPXML for ProTools, not for Logic. Logic should not be used with XtoPro. No need for it, not what X2Pro was made for.
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10 Oct 2019 13:57 #101970
by petersxs
Replied by petersxs on topic Sync Final Cut with Logic Pro X
HI
I think the original poster intended to run them ( LP & FCPX ) in sync at the same time rather than export / import which is as we all know "improoveable "
We basically started from zero wIIth fcpX not only concerning workflow
i still hope it was all worth for . :dry:
did the midi implementation from command post not work at all ?
I think the original poster intended to run them ( LP & FCPX ) in sync at the same time rather than export / import which is as we all know "improoveable "
i still hope it was all worth for . :dry:
did the midi implementation from command post not work at all ?
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