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Question about using optimised media.

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06 Mar 2019 13:30 - 06 Mar 2019 13:31 #99177 by John G
Hi All
I’ve been using FCPX since 2013, but there’s something about using optimised files which I’ve never properly understood (because I never do it!)

We usually edit exclusively ProRes files recorded on Atomos recorders, but at the moment I'm working on a film shot entirely on an iPhone using the Filmic Pro app (so H.264).

I don’t want to edit with the H.264 phone files, so I made optimised ProRes files when I imported the footage into FCPX.

I can see the optimised ProRes files inside the library contents, but in FCPX the inspector still shows all my clips as H.264. Also, doing a ‘Reveal in Finder’ on the clips reveals the original H.264 files - not the optimised clips.

My question is - do I need to switch in some way so that I’m editing with the optimised ProRes clips? If so I can't see a way to do that.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks

John

(FCPX 10.4.5. Mojave 10.14.3 i-mac 27inch 2015)
Last edit: 06 Mar 2019 13:31 by John G. Reason: mistake

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06 Mar 2019 13:51 #99178 by Tom Wolsky
FCP shows original media and takes you to the original media files. If optimized files are available FCP uses them.

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06 Mar 2019 15:00 #99179 by John G
Thanks Tom

I suspected that might be the case, but wasn't sure. That's great. I didn't want to get too far into editing this film until I knew what I was doing with the files!

John

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07 Mar 2019 00:01 #99183 by JoeEditor
I edit H.264 files from a variety of cameras, lots of it iPhones, and never had need to optimize. Why optimize? I'm just curious what the rational or need it. Always interested in other folks workflows.

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07 Mar 2019 04:10 #99190 by dgwvideo
If your computer is struggling to edit the H.264 media (because it's underpowered), then optimize. But I agree, if you can edit smoothly then don't bother optimizing. You won't gain anything by doing it.

Creating history....one edit at a time !

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07 Mar 2019 04:50 #99192 by Karsten Schlüter
There's one reason to convert iPhone stuff:
iPhones create 'video' files with a variable frame-rate (esp. in low light situations). Which can create hiccups in any NLE.-

But…
John wrote in his OP, they used FilmicPro… when correctly set, FilmicPro forces a constant FPS…

so I joIn the choir: no need to convert to ProRes, imho.

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07 Mar 2019 19:52 #99203 by John G
Hi All

Just to follow up… I agree, if your computer is running smoothly you don’t really need to optimise. I was just doing it as an experiment really as I’d never tried it before. The film I’m working on will need a lot of colour correction and some noise reduction, so I thought I’d see if converting to ProRes might help things along when I get to that stage.

The iPhones were shooting with Filmic Pro at 1080p 25fps. So no problem there (as Karsten mentioned). Filmic Pro is such a solid app now. Decent, high bit-rates, good colour controls etc… Used carefully it’s amazing what can be done with it!

John

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