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10 Jan 2018 07:02 #93100 by Ponponpostprod
Does someone have ever exported an AS10 compatible export for TV..
We've done yesterday an XDCAM HD 422 50Mbit/s 25i with 4 channel audio mxf export, and the analyse of the file by the tv comeback with errors.
Some experiences ?

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10 Jan 2018 13:30 #93105 by JoeEditor
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I submit MXF for broadcast weekly. What were the specific errors you were given?

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10 Jan 2018 13:42 #93107 by Ponponpostprod
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Here's the report of the software from TF1. Does it mean something for you ?
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10 Jan 2018 13:55 #93108 by Ponponpostprod
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errors comments are P7

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10 Jan 2018 18:14 - 10 Jan 2018 21:53 #93114 by Hub
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Here’s some kind of answer...:

www.broadcast-news.fr/fichier-mxf-pad-xdcam/

Encoding your ProRes export with Adobe Media Encoder shoud be ok. Has to be double checked.
In Compressor, there is no AS10 mxf profile. Unfortunatly.
Last edit: 10 Jan 2018 21:53 by Hub.

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11 Jan 2018 05:04 #93117 by Karsten Schlüter
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you have installed the latest version Pro Video Formats …?

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11 Jan 2018 07:17 #93120 by Ponponpostprod
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Hub wrote: Here’s some kind of answer...:

www.broadcast-news.fr/fichier-mxf-pad-xdcam/

Encoding your ProRes export with Adobe Media Encoder shoud be ok. Has to be double checked.
In Compressor, there is no AS10 mxf profile. Unfortunatly.


I've ever read this document from broadcast news and I was expecting that it's a problem of AS10 profile.
In a first time we're going to take Media Encoder or Premiere to do it but dislike to play with the dark side of the force.
Thank you Hub ...

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11 Jan 2018 07:19 #93121 by Ponponpostprod
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Karsten Schlüter wrote: you have installed the latest version Pro Video Formats …?


Yes I have.

Does people who send AS10 mxf profile to broadcaster, passed thru software test like us in France ?

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11 Jan 2018 10:10 #93123 by Finbo
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I suspect most people on the forum using MXF export settings use OP1A. Is AS10 common to France only?
Looking at your first post on the subject, I see you mention a 4 channel audio export.
I thought MXF had to be an 8 channel audio export, even if 4 channels are empty?
Just a thought, but are you losing valuable metadata by only exporting 4 channels and this is causing problems when the TV company import the material?

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11 Jan 2018 16:12 #93132 by JoeEditor
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If I was handed that report, I'd immediately call them and ask for the specific details, what needs is not "in conformance" (which is a super vague word). Even having read the white papers on AS10, I'm not exactly sure, but I think that could be metadata formatting, specific to AS10. This is new-is MXF sub-format, and yeah, since CNN, Harmony and Sony use this now, Apple needs to add it to our preset selections. Or give us more detailed control over MXF parameters (not to mention support for closed captioning in MXF formats).

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11 Jan 2018 17:43 #93139 by Ponponpostprod
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I had call them, but even the broadcaster's contact couldn't tell me exactly why that was not in conformance. Only their software know it !
For sure it's not a signal problem but certainly the order of some metadata.
In France, most of the main broadcasters use this specific AS10 and I'm going to send some requirements to Apple to have as soon as possible an AS10 preset in compressor.
For information, our file compressed with Premiere has been validated.

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11 Jan 2018 17:54 - 11 Jan 2018 17:55 #93140 by Ponponpostprod
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Feedback sent ! ;)
Last edit: 11 Jan 2018 17:55 by Ponponpostprod.

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12 Jan 2018 12:13 #93168 by JoeEditor
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Yes, sadly, as much as I use and love it, Compressor is woefully out of date and far behind the demand of today's film and broadcast industries. The same team handles Compressor and Motion, and I wonder, if they're an independent team, not even in the same physical location as the FCPX team, what do they do all day?

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12 Jan 2018 21:52 #93217 by smg669
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If you happen to already be an Adobe CC subscriber you could try Adobe Media Encoder. It contains an AS-10 MXF export template.

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