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Sharpener in FCPX

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09 Dec 2017 00:13 #92172 by geraldlewis
I use several different sharpeners inFCPX, the original plus some plug ins.
All of them, at times, will change the duration of the clip I apply it to.
Does anyone know why, and more importantly, how to prevent it?

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09 Dec 2017 16:23 #92179 by tpf1952
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I have not had that experience, although I have only used the sharpening effect that's native to FCPX.

Tom

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09 Dec 2017 16:49 #92180 by JoeEditor
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I've used the native and a few third party sharpen plugins, but never experienced one changing the duration of a clip.

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09 Dec 2017 16:51 #92182 by Karsten Schlüter
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geraldlewis wrote: … sharpeners inFCPX, the original plus some plug ins.
All of them, at times, will change the duration of the clip I apply it to.…


FCPX' own Sharpener effect contains nothing which could affect the duration of a clip…

Can you share a screenshot of your timeline, where you apply the effect to?

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09 Dec 2017 20:21 #92186 by geraldlewis
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There is not anything to share really.
It is the simplest of training videos - f our clips, no nat sound, just a VO.
Dissolves between the clips.
The only thing is the raw video is 1080P and I am cutting on a 720P timeline.
It doesn't happen all the time - I have about 85 videos to cut this way, I am into #30.
It has happened on maybe 4 of the ones I have edited.
I have tried applying sharpening before and after colour correction - no difference.
I have made it a compound clip and then applied - the same thing!

I emailed FCPEffects (one of the plugins I have). They were able to duplicate it, but have no idea why its happening.

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09 Dec 2017 23:32 #92188 by Stu Wart
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it's because the sharpening contracts the images, so the clip will be shorter

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10 Dec 2017 14:16 #92192 by JoeEditor
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Stu Wart wrote: it's because the sharpening contracts the images, so the clip will be shorter


Really, how exactly is anything "contracted" duration-wise by sharpening?

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10 Dec 2017 17:49 #92194 by Stu Wart
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FCPX.guru wrote:

Stu Wart wrote: it's because the sharpening contracts the images, so the clip will be shorter


Really, how exactly is anything "contracted" duration-wise by sharpening?

HAHAHA did you really think I was serious ? JOKE ! dear Guru , namaste

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10 Dec 2017 19:25 #92195 by geraldlewis
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Joking aside, this is a problem for me!
4-second clips become 6-second clips when sharpened.
Replacing the video make no difference. Turning the timeline into a compound clip and then sharpening doesn't help either.
Frustrating!

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11 Dec 2017 05:41 #92202 by JoeEditor
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I'm throwing the Sharpen filter on clips, and I'm not seeing anything expand. Can you give us before and after screen shots?

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11 Dec 2017 08:39 #92209 by Karsten Schlüter
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geraldlewis wrote: Joking aside, this is a problem for me!
4-second clips become 6-second clips when sharpened.…


No doubt it is.
But as mentioned above and before: show us your timeline and the inspector of that clip …
because, as said - when you open the Sharpen effect in Motion, there's absolutely zero which could affect the timing.
Even contrary: rule #1 in FCPX is "A second is a second" - e.g. one can mischmasch all sorts of fps's - FCPX does a perfect job keeping the beat. Just manipulating pixels has no effect on timing. You have to do intentionally some clicks to re-time.

sooo, show us your screen …

And just to exclude the obvious - apologies for asking silly questions:
we speak of Effects/Sharpen, which comes in the Inspector with a single slider, preset to '2.5' … ?

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11 Dec 2017 16:01 - 11 Dec 2017 16:01 #92221 by Stu Wart
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1080 to 720 plus sharpening ? you say ?

Are you on High Sierra ? or not ? First thing to know
the amount of bugs generated by the OS is growing every update
Last edit: 11 Dec 2017 16:01 by Stu Wart.

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11 Dec 2017 21:26 #92230 by geraldlewis
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I am aware of some of the bugs in the new OS, this is why I am still on El Captian.

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