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Still fighting w compound clips ... after all these years.

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13 Nov 2017 14:44 #91643 by parkerhqj
I have an on-going job that has a logo with text at the beginning and end of each project. I'm suddenly run into a problem I thought I had solved and I'm not sure how it happened. I created a compound clip that included the logo and text and I need to change the text frequently. But when I copy the compound clip and change the text, it also changes it in the previous one. When I try to change the clip in the browser to a referenced parent clip, it is greyed out as an option. Does anyone have a suggestion for how to save and reuse as a template a logo with text? Is a compound clip even the way to go? thx!

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13 Nov 2017 16:20 #91644 by lichinho
Before you make changes to a compound in the *timeline*, select it and do Clip->Reference New Parent Clip.

You have to do it in the timeline, not the browser - after all, the browser clip is the "parent" you need to change.

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13 Nov 2017 17:57 #91645 by JoeEditor
I think you're using a Compound when you should have made a Title Template with Motion. I do TV series and have to do this daily. We use Motion Title and Generator templates and never have these issues.

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14 Nov 2017 14:39 #91668 by parkerhqj
Thanks., I think you're right - Motion templates are the way to go. The only problem is that I use it so seldom, I need to relearn it all over again. But it will save me time. thx

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14 Nov 2017 14:46 #91669 by lichinho
Take the title you are using in FCP X, control-click in the Titles browser and choose Open a copy in Motion.
This way you have all the title already done and just need to add the logo in. Pretty simple.
Then you start thinking: what if I want to change the logo? Answer: make it a drop zone. What if... and all of a sudden you see there is a LOT of things you can do in Motion.

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14 Nov 2017 16:05 #91672 by JoeEditor
A bit off topic, but vaguely related;

I made a template for a 1:30 commercial spot. Every week I change two event dates. Then I have to change two logos, sometimes it only uses 1 logo. I made a generator template, rigged so it shows the group with two logos, or the group with one logo. I spent probably 3 days creating this. I've been using it weekly for a year, and I can get that spot done and uploaded to the client in literally 10 minutes. I've never made so much money in 10 minutes in my life. Heck, the first month of use paid for my three days or work to create it.

Point is, take the time now, it can save you a lot more time down the road, and make you more money per hour of work.

I find the more I learn to do with Motion, the more I use it, the more time I save. Like the famous equation states, E=MC(2), where E is time and MC(2) is money. Wait, that's not right...

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14 Nov 2017 22:05 #91694 by parkerhqj
That's great advice - and will keep me going when I'm ready to throw my laptop out the window because I'm too dense to figure out Motion workflows. thx

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15 Nov 2017 00:40 #91698 by JoeEditor
Don't let Motion intimidate you. It's easier to learn then you think. Go to Ripple Training, great stuff there.

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15 Nov 2017 06:11 #91702 by Karsten Schlüter
creating a custom-build Title (or Generator) has. aside convenience, another plus: continuity.
It 'nails' the design, position of logo, font-size/colors, but also timing, animations, positions etc …

For instance, publishing just the 'content well' forces the Editor to use the Title 'as is'.
Less options, less hassle, faster use.

And some text with a logo … c'mon, this is no rocket-science in Motion ;)
(ask for support in the Motion section of this board…)

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17 Nov 2017 21:28 #91780 by parkerhqj
Thanks everyone. I've moved over to the Motion forum to pester them for a while. thx

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