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Strange drop on title from Quicktime file.

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22 Jun 2017 19:07 #88953 by Jonathan Levin
Hi all.

I have a problem that I will try to describe and hopefully with your help and wisdom can resolve.

I'm working on a project in FC and needed to get some lower third title/graphic from my clients other video place. Via DropBox they sent me a a Quicktime file of the graphic. The size is 1920x1080, which is at least the size I need. When I do a Get Info of the file, the Codec section says Animation, Timecode.

The graphic appears against black, which is good since that will be transparent. But you will notice that there is a strange drop shadow around the graphic as well as a small white outline around the symbol. The lower part of the symbol should also be black, not dark brown.

Whats interesting is when I open their file, QT converts the file to ProRes 4444. Hmmm.

I know that the other video place works with Premier and After effects, but that's about all I could find out at this point. Is this something I'm doing wrong on import? Do I need to convert something or other. I hate working with other peoples files!!!!

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22 Jun 2017 19:12 #88954 by Tom Wolsky
Select the title and in the Settings section of the Info inspector try different alpha types. It might be straight or premultiplied with black.

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22 Jun 2017 19:33 #88955 by Jonathan Levin
Thanks Tom! Do I do this in Quicktime or FC?

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22 Jun 2017 20:10 #88956 by Jonathan Levin
Never mind. I found it. I set the Alpha Handling to Premultiply after trying the testing Straight and Ignore. I still had a little white edge around the graphic that I used FC's crop to get rid of that.

Any other insights welcome toThanks for the info Tom!

Jonathan

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22 Jun 2017 20:14 - 22 Jun 2017 20:15 #88957 by Jonathan Levin
To Clean up the black in the logo I added a Crisp Contrast effect. New screen shot:

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23 Jun 2017 03:01 #88961 by JoeEditor
And it could be the file itself.

Animation is an older codec, and the ProRes version is 4x4.

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23 Jun 2017 15:39 - 23 Jun 2017 15:40 #88971 by Jonathan Levin
Thanks again. In the future, could you give me any recommendations on what I should ask for as far as how they export these kind of (motion or still)graphics so that what ever they send will work nicely with FCP? We all hate surprises! Again I think they work in Premier/AffterEffects and maybe on a PC platform.

I gave them the basic info: 1920x1080 30p ProRes xxx. Anything else I should have them do to prep file?

Jonathan
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24 Jun 2017 03:29 #88977 by JoeEditor
If possible, ProRes 4444, but Animation codec is fine. Specify premultiplied alpha, and no shadows or feathered edges. About all I can think of.

Does this specific clip have Spatial Conform set to None? Is Scale set to 100 percent?

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24 Jun 2017 04:15 #88979 by Karsten Schlüter
… your second example lacks the opacity seen in your first (necktie under the white bar) - intentional?


proRes + Windows is for quiet a while a huge topic in that community, since Apple EOLed support for QTforWindows - announced for years, but when done e.g. Adobe was 'surprised' …

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