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Roll Tool problem

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21 Apr 2017 09:26 #87398 by g_knoll
Roll Tool problem was created by g_knoll
I am having problems with the roll tool. I want to pull back the video from a shot over the previous shot but the roll tool doesn't do the whole thing. It leaves one frame of the previous shot. This causes a world of pain to remove. Is there something really obvious I am missing, maybe because I an AVID editor stuck in the wrong way of thinking with FCP?
Thanks for any help

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21 Apr 2017 11:07 #87403 by Karsten Schlüter
Replied by Karsten Schlüter on topic Roll Tool problem
Welcome Gary to fcp.co :)

g_knoll wrote: … It leaves one frame of the previous shot.…


maybe there IS a single frame?
sometimes, by heavy 'back 'n forth'-editing, the last frame of a clip 'survives' as a single, separate 'solo' clip.

zoom into timeline, of, faster, check in the clip Index …

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21 Apr 2017 11:25 #87404 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic Roll Tool problem
What version are you using? Can you post a screenshot of the timeline area?

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21 Apr 2017 13:17 - 21 Apr 2017 13:18 #87409 by Overturf
Replied by Overturf on topic Roll Tool problem
I have seen this, too. My workaround is to lift the clip I want to roll above the primary storyline (CMD+ALT+UP ARROW), roll it and put it on the primary again (CMD+ALT+DOWN ARROW). Then delete the leftover audio. But I agree it is really annoying.
Last edit: 21 Apr 2017 13:18 by Overturf.

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21 Apr 2017 13:18 #87410 by JoeEditor
Replied by JoeEditor on topic Roll Tool problem
" I want to pull back the video from a shot over the previous shot..."

The Roll tool should do this, even if you're trying to make a whole clip disappear. ONLY as long as you have enough "handle" on the clip you're trying to extend. Could it be the clip your extending is one frame short of having enough media (handle) to cover the other clip?

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25 Apr 2017 11:18 #87519 by g_knoll
Replied by g_knoll on topic Roll Tool problem
Thanks, Karsten, but I have been pretty diligent and there is no stray frame. It happens every time on any clips I try it on

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25 Apr 2017 11:19 #87520 by g_knoll
Replied by g_knoll on topic Roll Tool problem
Wow, that is some workaround! For such a common action, it is incredibly infuriating to have to do that, I agree. There MUST be a simple solution

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25 Apr 2017 11:21 #87521 by g_knoll
Replied by g_knoll on topic Roll Tool problem
I agree it SHOULD do this, but it doesn't1 It is not a handle problem either as I have been pretty careful about that and it fails on many different clips of various lengths

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25 Apr 2017 16:33 #87535 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic Roll Tool problem
What's the frame rate of the media and the frame rate of the project? Primary or secondary storyline?

Trying to reproduce.

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25 Apr 2017 18:17 #87545 by JoeEditor
Replied by JoeEditor on topic Roll Tool problem
I can't reproduce it, works fine for me. What FCPX version and OS X version are you running, in addition to the other previous questions?

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25 Apr 2017 22:28 #87551 by g_knoll
Replied by g_knoll on topic Roll Tool problem
Mac Capitan 10.11.6
on iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015)
3.3 GHz Intel Core i5

FINAL CUT PRO X 10.2.3

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26 Apr 2017 01:49 #87556 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic Roll Tool problem
Can't reproduce in that version with the information provided.

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