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Stupid Silly Question Dept.: How do you fade-out foreground when green-screening??

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31 Mar 2017 07:05 #86865 by Karsten Schlüter
ok, I blame myself here, in public, dropping pants coram publico , but since yesterday, I crunch my head on that ultra simple beginners Q:

foreground: someone in front of a green-screen, lower lane: keyed background … anything, a clip.
Now, when I fade the subject, for sure the green is faded too = no key, no bg either!
But I want to continuous play the bg-clip, while the subject is faded-out.

I KNOW the answer will be THAT simple - but doesn't come up here.… (note2myself: ask doctor next time about side-effects of my medication)

… please, after laughing, help the old chicken over the road :blush:

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31 Mar 2017 08:29 #86867 by Tom Wolsky
The background is the layer below the green screen, no? If you fade out the green screen layer you should see the background layer.

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31 Mar 2017 08:47 - 31 Mar 2017 09:11 #86869 by Karsten Schlüter

Tom Wolsky wrote: … If you fade out the green screen layer you should see the background layer.


arrrrghghgh!!!
NOW I see my mistake, have a look, what we have done here in our lil' school project:




(another example of worst green screen ever) our talent, shot in green, clip cropped, keyer applied






now, MY usual routine to fade-out things is, hammering cmd-T onto keyboard - which results in loss of key (of course: no green, no key)

but:






[strike]In such case, I have to keyframe Opacity - THAT simple (slapping own forehead, making weird noises, givin' myself 'names')[/strike]

in such a case, follow Tom's advice…




and check that box…

THANKS TOM… sometimes it's just too simple.

Hope, everybody had a laugh ...
(omg, … ) :silly:
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31 Mar 2017 08:55 #86870 by Tom Wolsky
So why doesn't the cross dissolve work? Right-click on it and make sure it isn't set to fade to black.

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31 Mar 2017 09:01 #86871 by Karsten Schlüter

Tom Wolsky wrote: So why doesn't the cross dissolve work? Right-click on it and make sure it isn't set to fade to black.


(starting to whine) … 'cause I haven't known of this checkbox yet?
Be gentle, I'm a beginner, using FCPX just for about 5 years now...


Guess, I should buy a good book about How To Use FinalCut - any recommendations, Tom? ;)

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31 Mar 2017 09:09 #86872 by Tom Wolsky
Have a new edition for 10.3 coming out next week, but you know I'll have to check, but I'm not sure that silly checkbox is mentioned.

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31 Mar 2017 09:16 #86873 by Karsten Schlüter

Tom Wolsky wrote: …not sure that silly checkbox is mentioned.


…and it's only available in the context-menu, not in the Inspector …
wow, a hidden feature… at last, to my rescue… how should I know that?? :)

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31 Mar 2017 11:16 #86880 by JoeEditor
Yep, knew to me, also. But the "Fade to/from black" option is grayed out on all my transitions. Even the fade to color transition. When exactly does it become active?

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31 Mar 2017 12:03 #86883 by Tom Wolsky
Believe it's only available at the beginning and end of the project timeline.

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31 Mar 2017 21:43 #86891 by JoeEditor
Yes, you're correct. So it speed up the fade, makes it an S-Curve instead of Linear. Would be nice if we had a selection of curves there.

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01 Apr 2017 04:38 #86894 by Karsten Schlüter
so, … right-click OR keyframe opacity …

In review, perhaps not a too silly question :)

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01 Apr 2017 12:49 #86898 by JoeEditor
I have a new 1 minute news headline segment I have to record on green-screen daily now for a client. Fade in and out at the head and tail is a royal PITA. The FCPX dev team needs to tweak transitions to give us some more options in how they interact with other lanes and such. Not a silly question at all. A very necessary and serious question, one the FCPX dev team needs to pay attention to and consider an update to address it.

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01 Apr 2017 14:34 #86901 by Tom Wolsky
There are a lot of options for dissolves in the inspector, unfortunately there's no way I can see to make one a preset. Because it's one of the few transitions that can't be opened in Motion, there's no way that I can see to make a custom dissolve and set it as the default.

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01 Apr 2017 16:53 #86902 by Karsten Schlüter

Tom Wolsky wrote: … a custom dissolve ….


Not excactly what you mean, but our friend Simon Ubsdell offers this product:
hawaiki.co/dissolve.html

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