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Best way to use Illustrador files in FCPX

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08 Jun 2016 20:22 #77623 by christian.frank1
What's the best wotkflow to use ilustrador files in FCPX? Can't import .ai and .eps,
only .pdf ... PDF files can be imported but no alpha channel :silly:

I tried to export .psd from Ilustrador, but I don't know if it is the best workflow .

any idea?

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09 Jun 2016 08:24 #77658 by Karsten Schlüter
FCPX asks for pixel-graphics, not vectors.

So, if your paint-tool allows it, convert intp pixels and export in Photoshop format .psd to keep layers and transparencies

And Welcome, Christian, to fcp.co :)

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09 Jun 2016 14:13 #77673 by christian.frank1

Karsten Schlüter wrote: FCPX asks for pixel-graphics, not vectors.

So, if your paint-tool allows it, convert intp pixels and export in Photoshop format .psd to keep layers and transparencies

And Welcome, Christian, to fcp.co :)


Thank you Karsten! :)

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09 Jun 2016 17:40 #77676 by ianstubbs
Hi Christian,

I quite often use Illustrator/PDFs for logos in FCPX by using Motion to turn them into a generator first. Alpha channel then works properly and you can scale the graphic without loss of quality.

Process:

1. Make a new generator (in Motion) at your required fame size
2. Import your PDF file and check transparency is present
3. In the Media tab select the imported file and in the Inspector>Media>Media Controls panel uncheck Fixed Resolution
4. Publish the Scale, position, rotation controls for the layer as required
5. Save the generator

You can now use it in FCPX with alpha transparency and vector quality scaling.

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09 Jun 2016 18:12 #77678 by thinkfilm
Not my question but nice Motion tip, ianstubbs. Thanks!

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09 Jun 2016 19:52 #77685 by christian.frank1
Hey ianstubbs. nice tip!

Thanks a lot !

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09 Jun 2016 19:58 #77686 by christian.frank1
oh ya, one more question...

Why Motion can bring .pdf files with alpha channelsl and FCP X don't ?

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09 Jun 2016 22:43 - 09 Jun 2016 22:44 #77692 by BenB
Just an FYI, .png files support alpha channels, too. I personally feel they're less bulky than .pdf files.
Last edit: 09 Jun 2016 22:44 by BenB.

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10 Jun 2016 01:46 #77702 by christian.frank1

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11 Jun 2016 15:43 #77743 by Karsten Schlüter
png (and tiff) transport alpha-chanels, but are single layered.
psd (Photoshop format) contains alpha too, but allow to handle layers as individual 'tracks' in FCPX - double click a psd and it opens in its own timeline, showing each layer as a track.

pdf would be my last choice for usage in FCPX, because the pdf-container allows all kind of 'stuff' within which could confuse FCPX.

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11 Jun 2016 17:32 #77750 by lichinho
ianstubbs, thank you for such a great tip!

I concur that FCP X works better with a png file on the timeline than with a pdf, but the ability to use the vectorial information in the pdf via a Motion generator is AWESOME. I have just tested this with a very complicated vectorial drawing and it works wonderfully well - in one instance, I scaled the drawing up to 10000% and it was perfect. Doing the same with png with require the creation of a huge file. Oh, and that pdf file used only 4KB...

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11 Jun 2016 21:14 #77752 by ianstubbs
Thanks for the kind words. I've used this technique for many jobs over the last few years and it's never caused a problem. Used sensibly it allows manipulation of vector graphics in FCPX which is otherwise not possible. Obviously this has advantages over bit map images when scaling and the vector is often smaller in size than the equivalent png or psd files. However, it's not always the best choice - it's just another tool in the box.

With the addition of blur and drop shadow controls I've used it to put a logo on the wall behind an interviewee too. :)

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12 Jun 2016 12:40 - 12 Jun 2016 12:41 #77759 by BenB
Yes, PDF is about the only option, and a good one, for vector graphics, when needed. FCPX handles them extremely well. Just depends on what your requirements are at the moment. PDF, PSD, PNG, JPG, all have their pros and cons.
Last edit: 12 Jun 2016 12:41 by BenB.

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13 Jun 2016 23:04 #77787 by christian.frank1
Thanks!

Karsten Schlüter wrote: png (and tiff) transport alpha-chanels, but are single layered.
psd (Photoshop format) contains alpha too, but allow to handle layers as individual 'tracks' in FCPX - double click a psd and it opens in its own timeline, showing each layer as a track.

pdf would be my last choice for usage in FCPX, because the pdf-container allows all kind of 'stuff' within which could confuse FCPX.

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01 Aug 2016 13:51 #78952 by Marc Lucas
I've just tried this with an .AI file and everything worked apart from the scalling. When using an AI file I would of assumed it would work the same way as the PDF?

When selecting the media in the Inspector there isn't an option to unstick Fixed Resolution' all you have is that option in the group settings. Can you do this with AI files? They are in essence vectors.

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