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Subtitle (bug) size 4K, HD and SD

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03 May 2016 18:55 #76344 by knesaren
We're starting to produce in 4K, but we're also delivering in HD and SD. I want to make a generator with a bug in the lower left corner with a published parameter to choose between bug sizes for 4K, HD and SD. I want the bug to be just a little bit higher than the subtitles.

My guess: Subtitles can be visualy smaller on 4K than HD and HD subtitles smaller than SD subtitles, due to image resolution.

Is there an industry standard font size for subtitles for 4K, HD and SD? Is it the same size, but more letters on higher resolution per line?

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05 May 2016 07:38 #76408 by whitemax
I don't believe FCP supports 4K video. The 1080p is the highest resolution it accepts. 1920x1080 at 60fps. The 4K was 3840x2160 at 30fps.

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05 May 2016 09:21 #76412 by knesaren
FCPX supports all resolutions.

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05 May 2016 09:23 #76413 by lichinho

whitemax wrote: I don't believe FCP supports 4K video. The 1080p is the highest resolution it accepts. 1920x1080 at 60fps. The 4K was 3840x2160 at 30fps.


FCP X certainly supports 4K (and beyond).

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05 May 2016 11:41 - 05 May 2016 11:44 #76418 by BenB
"FCP" legacy only supported HD.
"FCP X" supports 4K+.


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05 May 2016 13:10 #76424 by knesaren
...but I still haven't found, what I'm looking for.

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05 May 2016 13:30 #76426 by lichinho
There are several ways you can go about sizing the bug.
One of the easiest ways would be merely to publish the scale parameter, and let the user play with it in FCP X.

Another insteresting possibility - which you could leverage to go much further, e.g. allowing for different colors, sizes, or different bugs altogether - is to use a rig (or two or three). You could have a popup menu for "4K", "HD", "SD", and another for "Beetle", "Ladybug" or whatever. The possibilities are endless.

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05 May 2016 13:40 #76427 by Karsten Schlüter

knesaren wrote: … Is there an industry standard font size for subtitles for 4K, HD and SD? ...


No.

... and depends, aside amount&complexity of text, on viewing distance not resolution, doesn't it? ;)

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06 May 2016 09:25 #76435 by Andreas Kiel

knesaren wrote: Is there an industry standard font size for subtitles for 4K, HD and SD? Is it the same size, but more letters on higher resolution per line?

?????????????
Do have special different fonts for printing big posters instead of postcards?

FCPx uses vector fonts.

Andreas

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06 May 2016 09:42 #76436 by Karsten Schlüter

Andreas Kiel wrote: … different fonts for printing big posters instead of postcards?…


LOL, nice analogy... :)

I guess, the OP stucks in the highly academic loop, that a higher pixel-density (I'm aware - no such thing as dpi in video…) allows smaller fonts... which is, imho, for subtitles completely irrelevant... alone 'normal' viewing distance prohibits itzybitzytiny sizes...

plus, what I mentioned before:
a karoke text is bigger than some obligatory advocat-ish "model on display only on onwers expense supplementary equipment, not avail in your country....."

Font size depends on readability - which depends on content…

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