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No support for XF-AVC from the Canon C300 Mark II

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09 Nov 2015 20:31 #70426 by BJansch

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I've been trying to get some 12 bit 444 XF-AVC footage into FCPX from my Canon C300 Mark II but apparently Apple have not yet installed the drivers or made the current version compatible, whereas PP CC and Avid both support this format.

Does anyone know if there's a way of getting the driver into FCPX because I don't want to go back to the pain that is transcoding vast swathes of media.

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10 Nov 2015 13:26 #70444 by muddygun

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Whats weird is that supposedly phillip bloom was able to import this footage. but he did this early in april or may. i am curious if the previous version of fcpx had this codec working. do u have 10.2.1 or 10.2 installed?

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10 Nov 2015 13:51 #70445 by BJansch

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I think Mr Bloom uses PP CC. I don't understand why they can't just all use Prores and stop all the faffing about!

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10 Nov 2015 17:57 #70454 by

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My English is not very good. But I think we should be able to import it. . . I do not remember what format shot C300.It proposed to retain the original video data, through [Import] function to import

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10 Nov 2015 19:14 #70459 by BJansch

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C300 shoots MPEG2 and C300 shoots XF-AVC at up to 12bit 444.

Thanks but looks like I'm the only one using FCPX with the C300M2, on this forum anyways.

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10 Nov 2015 19:49 #70460 by muddygun

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No. I got a co-worker using it and we ran into the same problem. On Phillip Blooms page he said it worked with FCPX...but like i said it was in May when i think we were on 10.2.1. but yeah...would like to get a fix for this because the C300 Mark II is a great camera.

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10 Nov 2015 20:14 #70463 by Tom Wolsky

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What OS are you using? Any chance you can upload a small camera card zip somewhere? It's unlikely that 10.2.2 changed anything over 10.2.1 in this regard as it's one of the few updates with compatible libraries with the previous version.

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10 Nov 2015 20:33 #70466 by BJansch

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I'm on 10.2.2 and Yosemite. Canon's website seems to suggest that they are waiting for Apple to finish testing and that the next update to FCPX will include the XF-AVC support. It's a lovely camera to use and I'm hoping to be equally impressed with the footage when the big guns sort it out!

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19 Jan 2016 11:35 #72356 by mester

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hi there
did anyone find a solution for this yet?
thanks

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19 Jan 2016 12:46 #72357 by BJansch

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No solution as far as I can tell. I'm waiting for Apple!

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19 Jan 2016 13:03 #72361 by mester

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we did some transcode in Adobe Media Encoder, buts thats about the only thing to do, but why the h... di Canon use the FCPX logo on the website, they must know that it dont work at all on anything else than Adobe, is should be the other way around

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27 Jan 2016 13:05 #72603 by JPM Editor

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I'm just starting to work in a project that's being shot in the Canon C300 Mark II as well. So if anyone can report a solution to import the footage directly into Final Cut Pro X, I'd really appreciate it.

I'm finding confusing information about this online. For instance, I just read on Twitter that you can successfully import XF-AVC media into Final Cut Pro X:

Invalid consumer key/secret in configuration

It seems FCPX needs to rewrap the MXF original files to MOV (so the support is not "truly native" I guess). But at least you can import the files with the "Copy to Library Destination" option checked.

Has anyone had the same experience with XF-AVC Intra frame footage?

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27 Jan 2016 14:48 - 27 Jan 2016 14:49 #72606 by JPM Editor

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In case anyone is interested, I just found online some sample 4K AVC-Intra footage from the Canon C300 Mark II:

REVIEW Link: www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/10/canon-c...ii-first-impressions
DOWNLOAD Link: www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/lNKtyhSU..._=cd_share_link_copy

They are OP1a MXF files that you can import straight into Final Cut Pro X 10.2.2 even with the "Leave Files in Place" option (rewrapping is not necessary).

So it seems that Apple added support to XF-AVC in FCPX 10.2.2 (which came with a Pro Video Formats update as well)

Anyone still having issues with this format under 10.2.2? Can we confirm that this is fixed for good?

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28 Jan 2016 11:30 - 28 Jan 2016 11:31 #72692 by JPM Editor

Replied by JPM Editor on topic No support for XF-AVC from the Canon C300 Mark II

Thanks to Robbie Coblentz (Twitter: @RCoblentz), I finally learnt what flavors of the XF-AVC format are not supported in Final Cut Pro X yet.

In this screencast he took the time to make, he proves that FCPX 10.2.2:

Supports all YCC 4:2:2 10-bit Canon C300 Mk II formats: HD/2K/UHD/4K.
Doesn't support any of the RGB 4:4:4 formats (HD/2K) regardless of the bit depth (10/12-bit).

I hope this is useful for someone else in this forum. I will definitely send feedback to Apple about this issue. Hopefully they will support 4:4:4 RGB clips from the Canon C300 MK II in future updates.

Jesús
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30 Jan 2016 14:19 #72755 by BJansch

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Hi Jesus, thanks for the clip, very interesting!

Strange thing is that I have the same version of both FCPX and OSX and I have installed the latest Apple pro video formats plugin but all the files on my import window are greyed out. I shot everything in HD YCC 10bit. The only thing I can think of doing is a fresh install, so that's what I'm doing now.

So infuriating!! I'll let you know how I get on.

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30 Jan 2016 14:54 - 30 Jan 2016 17:53 #72757 by JPM Editor

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Hi Boris,

Do you have the Canon XF Plugin for Final Cut Pro X installed in your system?
www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/hom...eos-c300?tab=drivers

I don't have it installed and I could import the test files I linked to in my previous post without a problem.

Maybe you are running into some kind of conflict with the Canon plugin... Have you tried uninstalling that instead?

Good luck!

Jesús
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30 Jan 2016 17:34 #72769 by BJansch

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Here's a little video to demonstrate how my FCPX setup, running a 6 core Mac Pro with all the latest plugin and software versions, still does not allow me to import 10 bit footage from the Canon C300 Mark ii.

Anyone that can help me solve this little mystery will be an instant legend.

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30 Jan 2016 17:50 #72772 by BJansch

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Hi Jesus, I'll give that a go!

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30 Jan 2016 19:08 #72775 by BJansch

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No joy, I've removed all the Canon software/plugins. I've reinstalled FCPX. No idea what else to try. Clean install of El Capitan and add the apps one by one perhaps...

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