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Transcoded media double size?
09 Nov 2015 13:13 #70402
by Brinky
Transcoded media double size? was created by Brinky
Hi,
Shot some footage with my GH4 1080p 25fps. I've imported the stuff in FPC X. When I look in the library the original media is around 27gb the transcoded media 61gb. This is eating up my disk space. Any ideas how to reduce this, or is this 'normal'
thanks.
Shot some footage with my GH4 1080p 25fps. I've imported the stuff in FPC X. When I look in the library the original media is around 27gb the transcoded media 61gb. This is eating up my disk space. Any ideas how to reduce this, or is this 'normal'
thanks.
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09 Nov 2015 13:32 #70404
by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic Transcoded media double size?
Normal. Optimized media used for production is high resolution and high data rate.
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09 Nov 2015 13:53 #70406
by DmitriZigany
Replied by DmitriZigany on topic Transcoded media double size?
Yes, normal. FCPX by default makes optimized media ProRes 422, I believe.
I'm not sure what codec the GH4 uses, but for me when working on AVCHD footage from my FS700 and A7S I never optimise the footage as my computer handles the files just fine anyway.
So if you're not seeing any performance issues editing the non-optimised footage, then you can just skip the optimisation. As far as I know, there's no quality gain using optimised media.
I'm not sure what codec the GH4 uses, but for me when working on AVCHD footage from my FS700 and A7S I never optimise the footage as my computer handles the files just fine anyway.
So if you're not seeing any performance issues editing the non-optimised footage, then you can just skip the optimisation. As far as I know, there's no quality gain using optimised media.
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09 Nov 2015 14:47 #70408
by joema
It is normal, and in fact optimized media can be much larger than that -- 8x in some cases.
FCP X handles native camera files fairly well. On a higher-end iMac you can usually edit 1080p H264 native files directly without generating optimized or proxy media.
4k is different and this often requires proxy media. Fortunately FCP X handles this very well and is almost seamless. As 4k rapidly proliferates, this is a huge advantage over Premiere, which has no integrated proxy workflow. In that case they must manually transcode externally and copy files around by hand and hope everything syncs up.
With FCP X you just transcode to proxy either on import or afterward the change the viewer to use proxy. Before your final export, remember to change back to original media.
A good utility to help track FCP X library space is Library File Manager: www.arcticwhiteness.com/finalcutlibrarymanager/
Replied by joema on topic Transcoded media double size?
Brinky wrote: Hi,
Shot some footage with my GH4 1080p 25fps. I've imported the stuff in FPC X. When I look in the library the original media is around 27gb the transcoded media 61gb. This is eating up my disk space. Any ideas how to reduce this, or is this 'normal'...
It is normal, and in fact optimized media can be much larger than that -- 8x in some cases.
FCP X handles native camera files fairly well. On a higher-end iMac you can usually edit 1080p H264 native files directly without generating optimized or proxy media.
4k is different and this often requires proxy media. Fortunately FCP X handles this very well and is almost seamless. As 4k rapidly proliferates, this is a huge advantage over Premiere, which has no integrated proxy workflow. In that case they must manually transcode externally and copy files around by hand and hope everything syncs up.
With FCP X you just transcode to proxy either on import or afterward the change the viewer to use proxy. Before your final export, remember to change back to original media.
A good utility to help track FCP X library space is Library File Manager: www.arcticwhiteness.com/finalcutlibrarymanager/
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11 Nov 2015 14:48 #70488
by Gretta
Replied by Gretta on topic Transcoded media double size?
It's normal, but here is how you can delete those files and regain the space. If it works without them, uncheck 'optimized' in future, if not, select clips and choose 'create optimized' from some menu…
delete generated
delete generated
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11 Nov 2015 22:57 #70531
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Transcoded media double size?
The following also allows for deleting render files in the same window, at the same time.
Cleaning up optimized and proxied media:
help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.2/#/verb8e5f6fd
Delete optimized or proxy files
You can delete optimized or proxy media files at any time, no matter where they are stored. Original media files are not deleted, so you can always regenerate optimized and proxy files from the original media.
Do one of the following:
To delete optimized or proxy files for one or more projects: In the Browser, select one or more projects.
To delete optimized or proxy files for one or more events: In the Libraries list, select one or more events in the same library.
To delete optimized or proxy files for a library: Select a library in the Libraries list.
Choose File > Delete Generated [item] Files.
In the window that appears, select any of the following:
Delete Optimized Media
Delete Proxy Media
Click OK.
The selected files are deleted from your storage device.
Note: The Delete Generated Library Files command is unique among media management commands in Final Cut Pro in that it affects external media as well as managed media (in the library).
Cleaning up optimized and proxied media:
help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.2/#/verb8e5f6fd
Delete optimized or proxy files
You can delete optimized or proxy media files at any time, no matter where they are stored. Original media files are not deleted, so you can always regenerate optimized and proxy files from the original media.
Do one of the following:
To delete optimized or proxy files for one or more projects: In the Browser, select one or more projects.
To delete optimized or proxy files for one or more events: In the Libraries list, select one or more events in the same library.
To delete optimized or proxy files for a library: Select a library in the Libraries list.
Choose File > Delete Generated [item] Files.
In the window that appears, select any of the following:
Delete Optimized Media
Delete Proxy Media
Click OK.
The selected files are deleted from your storage device.
Note: The Delete Generated Library Files command is unique among media management commands in Final Cut Pro in that it affects external media as well as managed media (in the library).
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