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Three times slower master h264 export in 10.2.2

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28 Sep 2015 14:18 #69023 by Tom Wolsky
How are you getting H.264 interlaced? I'm exported master files from a 29.97 interlaced project in H.264 and ProRes. The H.264 is not interlaced




the ProRes is


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28 Sep 2015 14:35 - 28 Sep 2015 14:38 #69027 by Tom Wolsky
The 10.2.2 H.264 file is quite a bit larger than the 10.2.1 file, and to make it weirder the 10.2.1 file shows interlacing when exporting master, while the 10.2.2 file does not.
Last edit: 28 Sep 2015 14:38 by Tom Wolsky.

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28 Sep 2015 14:42 #69028 by BenB
My brain hurts...

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28 Sep 2015 14:47 #69030 by Tom Wolsky
It becomes interlaced.

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28 Sep 2015 14:50 #69032 by BenB
And pixelated...

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28 Sep 2015 18:44 #69038 by Tom Wolsky
Keep reading the other messages. 10.2.2 master H.264 is no longer interlaced. It's also a much larger file than H.264 10.2.1.

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28 Sep 2015 19:21 - 28 Sep 2015 19:24 #69039 by Tom Wolsky
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28 Sep 2015 22:08 #69041 by AndersM
I am getting true interlaced 25i master h264 and prores exports from both 10.2.1 and 10.2.2. I have checked the files for "interlaced lines" when displaying both fields in VLC and on a true 25i output from a Blackmagic to a tv.

However I am seeing the same thing as you when playing back the prores and h264 files in Quicktime. It seems like Quicktime is only displaying one field on the h264 file. Have you tried vlc with deinterlacing turned off?

I am also getting about 25% larger files from 10.2.2.

Thanks for testing!

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28 Sep 2015 22:33 #69042 by Tom Wolsky
Yes, it's interlaced in VLC.

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29 Sep 2015 19:43 #69077 by blueonly
Hi, I have EXACTLY the same experience as you!
I have an iMac 2012 with i7 and NVIDIA 1GB graphics. It exported very fast 1080/25i XDCAM EX to H.264.
After the update from FCPX 10.2.1 to 10.2.2 this became very slow almost 6 (!!!) times slower than before. I started phoning with Apple, but there is no solution right now.

Possible solutions:
No solution is to install CUDA drivers for the NVIDIA. Exporting worked always without CUDA drivers, and installing the actual drivers will not solve the problem.
A possible solution is to get "Quick sync" working. But I have no idea how this should happen. Quick Sync is a hardware encoder from Intel that is inside the i7 Chip (or maybe on the Intel GPU of the i7).
With 10.2.1 the Export uses Quick Sync and this EVEN WORKS WITH INTERLACED 1080/25i ! You can check this with "Activity monitor" in Applications/Utilities. When using hardware encoding by Quick Sync the CPU will export with about 30% activity and will be very fast. When NOT using Quick Sync the activity of the CPU will be at 80% and will be very slow.

When FCPX changed to 10.2.2 this use of hardware encoding broke down. I don't know why. With a Mac Pro you won't see this, because it has not the hardware encoder of an i7. So for example a MacBook 2012 i7 Quad NVIDIA 1 GB RAM was faster in exporting to H.264 FullHD interlaced than a Mac Pro.

For me this is a big problem, because I can not update to 10.2.2 and have to keep may Macs with Yosemite until this is fixed. Will it be fixed? Exporting professional HD material to an exchange format as H.264 interlaced at that speed WAS an big advantage of FCPX. Apple said, they would bring H.264 interlaced to 10.2.2, but in fact it already worked very good and very very fast in 10.2.1.

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02 Oct 2015 18:08 #69203 by AndersM
Thanks for confirming.
Make sure you (and everyone else) report it to apple here: www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html

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10 Oct 2015 10:23 #69394 by Dash
Hi all... brand new to this... and do not really understand most of the jargon... but I am having the same download troubles.... to the point where I have now had 10 attempts to down load a 6.05Gb project to a USB so we can watch it on the TV.
messages keep coming saying the "export of the project has failed.

I have down loaded this project many times before for friends.... and it used to take me about 2 minutes.... now... with 10.2.2.... about 15 minutes into it... at about 85% down loaded.... and up comes the failure message!.

Don't know about this "interlaced " stuff... all I wan to do is export (copy in high Quality) and watch it.

Please help

thanks

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12 Oct 2015 09:09 - 12 Oct 2015 09:10 #69436 by Karsten Schlüter

… and do not really understand most of the jargon...


for a 6GB file that stick has to be formatted correctly, check:

in Finder (not in FCPX), select the stick (click once)
then, hit cmd-i on your keyboard
read under Format .... what

fat32 = nogo, reformat stick using the Disk Utility (Apps/Utilities/....)
ntfs = nogo, see above
exFat/hfs = post here again .....
Last edit: 12 Oct 2015 09:10 by Karsten Schlüter.

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