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cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
06 Aug 2015 10:07 #67164
by Spinalman
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Hi,
I have a 2 camera shoot with both cameras on the timeline synched. Currently I can show the clients how the cuts will go alternating between each camera by playing and live switching using "V" to switch off / on the B camera on the secondary timeline. Lovely! But how can I convert those simple decisions to real cuts? "Option ]" works to put an out point on the B camera but then removes the remnant of that clip. It would work better if such a shortcut were to mark an out point and insert a cut, wait for a later in point to be marked and then automatically remove the clip between the out and in - all on the fly.
Am I missing an efficient method? What does everyone else do?
The alternative is just to use the blade tool and trim - which isn't the "cut on the fly" I am hoping for.
I appreciate multicam edit is available, but it is a faff for lots of 3 minute synched sequences.
Thanks in anticipation
I have a 2 camera shoot with both cameras on the timeline synched. Currently I can show the clients how the cuts will go alternating between each camera by playing and live switching using "V" to switch off / on the B camera on the secondary timeline. Lovely! But how can I convert those simple decisions to real cuts? "Option ]" works to put an out point on the B camera but then removes the remnant of that clip. It would work better if such a shortcut were to mark an out point and insert a cut, wait for a later in point to be marked and then automatically remove the clip between the out and in - all on the fly.
Am I missing an efficient method? What does everyone else do?
The alternative is just to use the blade tool and trim - which isn't the "cut on the fly" I am hoping for.
I appreciate multicam edit is available, but it is a faff for lots of 3 minute synched sequences.
Thanks in anticipation
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06 Aug 2015 10:13 #67165
by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
You make a synced multicam clip. You put it in a project. You open the angle viewer and you cut there.
Start with a quick read beginning here
www.fcpxbook.com/updates/multicam1/
Start with a quick read beginning here
www.fcpxbook.com/updates/multicam1/
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06 Aug 2015 10:45 #67167
by Spinalman
Replied by Spinalman on topic cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the quick reply. I did consider the Multicam process but it is a longer process and does require you to create the clips in advance. I have a populated timeline already so it does mean going back to the browser to set each clip up. Secondly whilst I can set up the multicam clip to switch video only, it does eventually cut the multicam clip which in itself cuts the audio channels - so if I should subsequent want to tweak the audio -in my case 2 mikes, then I'll have to do that on each of the small cut clips - not the continuous audio I would have if the primary clip and related audio had a secondary clip, cut as desired, laid on top.
I can't believe there isn't a simple "convert markers to cut" option or one as described in my OP.
Thanks for the quick reply. I did consider the Multicam process but it is a longer process and does require you to create the clips in advance. I have a populated timeline already so it does mean going back to the browser to set each clip up. Secondly whilst I can set up the multicam clip to switch video only, it does eventually cut the multicam clip which in itself cuts the audio channels - so if I should subsequent want to tweak the audio -in my case 2 mikes, then I'll have to do that on each of the small cut clips - not the continuous audio I would have if the primary clip and related audio had a secondary clip, cut as desired, laid on top.
I can't believe there isn't a simple "convert markers to cut" option or one as described in my OP.
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06 Aug 2015 10:54 #67168
by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
You can separate the audio and you can switch cameras without switching the audio. The application assumes you did it correctly to start with so the so no provision for a workaround.
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06 Aug 2015 11:08 #67169
by Spinalman
Replied by Spinalman on topic cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
Hi Tom,
Yes I am switching audio correctly - or rather not switching it in multicam - just video. However the multicam clip, on the timeline, after the video only cuts have been applied means that the continuous audio for the that multicam clip can not have a audio level adjustment (or EQ etc) to the multicam clip as a whole - because the cuts make descrete clips within that multicam clip. You'd have to make audio tweaks to each clip - or select all and copy paste adjustments. Or have I got it wrong?
Yes I am switching audio correctly - or rather not switching it in multicam - just video. However the multicam clip, on the timeline, after the video only cuts have been applied means that the continuous audio for the that multicam clip can not have a audio level adjustment (or EQ etc) to the multicam clip as a whole - because the cuts make descrete clips within that multicam clip. You'd have to make audio tweaks to each clip - or select all and copy paste adjustments. Or have I got it wrong?
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06 Aug 2015 11:30 #67170
by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
IF you need to apply EQ, then you should detach the audio so it's a separate, continuous clip.
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06 Aug 2015 11:38 #67172
by Spinalman
Replied by Spinalman on topic cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
Hi Tom,
Yes. So the process needs to be: Make the multiclip in the bowser. Put onto timeline. Select the primary clip that has the audio associated with it. Detach the audio. THEN do the multicam cutting on the fly. If you subsequently need to do trim editing that is fine, but removing complete sequences will require a attach audio and cut.
Yes. So the process needs to be: Make the multiclip in the bowser. Put onto timeline. Select the primary clip that has the audio associated with it. Detach the audio. THEN do the multicam cutting on the fly. If you subsequently need to do trim editing that is fine, but removing complete sequences will require a attach audio and cut.
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06 Aug 2015 11:42 #67173
by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
Not quite sure what you mean by removing complete sequences, but if you use Shift-Cmd-B you will blade across all the layers and can delete sections across the project while keeping the multicam in sync. o
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06 Aug 2015 16:16 #67179
by ronny courtens
Replied by ronny courtens on topic cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
The easiest way to deal with audio on a finished multicam:
Cut your multicam clip on the timeline. If needed, trim your cut up multicam to delete unwanted pauzes and the likes.
When you need to work on the audio: group-select the clips on the timeline and press CMD+G. Your multicam is now a compound clip with one continuous audio channel. Apply any filters or volume changes on the audio.
If you need to do more trimming on the multicam while you are doing the audio: just open the CC in its timeline, do whatever you need to do and go back to the main timeline. All your audio work will be preserved.
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Cut your multicam clip on the timeline. If needed, trim your cut up multicam to delete unwanted pauzes and the likes.
When you need to work on the audio: group-select the clips on the timeline and press CMD+G. Your multicam is now a compound clip with one continuous audio channel. Apply any filters or volume changes on the audio.
If you need to do more trimming on the multicam while you are doing the audio: just open the CC in its timeline, do whatever you need to do and go back to the main timeline. All your audio work will be preserved.
- Ronny
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09 Aug 2015 16:19 #67220
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic cut on the fly - 2 camera edit
You do have access to all audio channels, and can configure them as you want with a Multicam clip. Have one channel run the whole duration inside the Project timeline.
www.macprovideo.com/hub/final-cut/final-...channel-editing-1006
www.macprovideo.com/hub/final-cut/final-...channel-editing-1006
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