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Need help with a "layer" in FCPX

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21 Jun 2015 18:42 #65752 by Cromonius
Hello all. If anyone could help me with this, that would be awesome. I am using fcpx and have the CoreMelt motion tracker and slicex plugin, and wanted to put a sign behind the actor. The sign wont move, it'll simply be placed behind him. Can I use the tracker or mark to create the actor as a "layer" as in Photoshop?

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22 Jun 2015 01:40 #65757 by funwithstuff
Here are a couple of demos where items have been placed behind the actors. In each case you'll need to use the Keyer to isolate your actor onto the top layer, then place other items behind them, with TrackX for tracking. You can use multiple copies of clips if needed.

Adding a Tracked Background to a Green-Screen Clip using TrackX and SliceX
vimeo.com/96885238

Inserting Blood Hits, Muzzle Flash and Wound Effects into a fight scene in FCP X using TrackX
vimeo.com/120653365

While it would be *possible* to isolate an actor with SliceX, it would be very slow and time consuming, as you'd probably have to move many keyframes every frame.

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22 Jun 2015 15:57 - 22 Jun 2015 16:05 #65773 by Karsten Schlüter

Cromonius wrote: … CoreMelt motion tracker and slicex plugin, and wanted to put a sign behind the actor. The sign wont move, it'll simply be placed behind him. Can I use the tracker or mark to create the actor as a "layer" as in Photoshop?


yupp, a bit like that, have a look, done quick'n dirty …



(guess, this time I've overdone it with the Red Arrows…)

You see: To make the sign part of the scene, I used the Simple Tracker from TrackX,
Now, when the car passes the sign, I made a copy of that track (alt-click'n push mouse), and I applied a mask with SliceX....



My example was done in minutes - the tracking for the sign didn't come out as wanted ... the sign 'hops' in some frames.

But to explain the principle: track and place items; then double video and apply masks ....

side note: Steve McQueen, OMG! , the definition of 'cool'..... <sigh>

And:
With TrackX and SliceX done in minutes... ok, some minutes...
These tools are uncompared!
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23 Jun 2015 03:41 #65794 by Cromonius
Wow! Great tutorials. I should have delved deeper into the CoreMelt Vimeo vids before I posted here. Would you know where I could get all those clips that the trainer had? The powder, muzzle flash, etc.

Also, thanks a lot for replying with the links. Very informative and much appreciated.

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23 Jun 2015 03:44 #65795 by Cromonius
Karsten, thanks for the info and video! I actually laughed out loud when I hit play. Believe it or not, I actually used your exact method in tinkering and waiting (praying) for a response to my initial question. As always, thank you for your help! Very much appreciated.

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23 Jun 2015 04:03 - 23 Jun 2015 04:05 #65797 by Karsten Schlüter

Cromonius wrote: …  Believe it or not, I actually used your exact method in tinkering and waiting (praying) for a response to my initial question. ….


"There are no coincidences" ... :lol:
=> in our film workshop at school, we actually had that as an exercise; that's why I had that 'Bullit' scene so fast 'at hand'... Bullit is an excellent source for teaching editing, to mention that ....

TrackX and SliceX are just awesome... a bit more tricky than in the tutorials, but plain awesome.

reg. your other question:
muzzle flashes are more or less just one or two frames 'long'; you get a wide variety by simply performing a pictures/google search (search for png as format) and add them to your scene 'by hand', use the distortion tool to 'fit perspectives'; and you find them at youtube, muzzle flash + green screen ... but you can not be sure, as with any of those YTuploads, if they are legit or not... for 'household' usage I would say "anyhow!", for a more professional usage (publication) I would be careful ...

finally, to make muzzle flashes 'part of the scenery', you should adjust the 'lighting' the of scene either, Brandon tells you how:
Last edit: 23 Jun 2015 04:05 by Karsten Schlüter.

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23 Jun 2015 04:15 #65798 by funwithstuff
Thanks — I'm the trainer who makes most of the Coremelt tutorials. There are some free elements linked below that tutorial: www.fxelements.com/free-zone

For the exact ones used in the tutorial, they were from Video Copilot's Action Essentials. Additional stills elements were original photos cut out in Photoshop.

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23 Jun 2015 04:59 #65799 by Cromonius
Karsten, thanks for the info and I watched, liked and subscribed to Brandon's channel. Also, I just looked up film schools in my area (Jersey) sand will sign up for an editing class come September. Even though I think I am a couple steps down the ever-growing road of editing, I'm sure there are things to learn and relationships to forge. :)

funwithstuff, the CoreMelt vids are really great and wholly necessary once purchasing the plugins (which I did after playing around with the free trial). Thanks for the links! Are the Video Copilot's Action Essentials compatible with fcpx? It looks like it is mainly used in After Effects.

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23 Jun 2015 05:02 #65800 by funwithstuff

Cromonius wrote: Thanks for the links! Are the Video Copilot's Action Essentials compatible with fcpx? It looks like it is mainly used in After Effects.


Yes, the Action Essentials (like most of these packs) are just QuickTime movies with alpha channels, so you can use them in any NLE or compositing app.

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23 Jun 2015 05:47 #65801 by Karsten Schlüter

funwithstuff wrote: Thanks — I'm the trainer who makes most of the Coremelt tutorials. ….


just a millimeter off-topc, using the chance for a direct response:

I'm no native English speaker, so my scale is probably a bit different ...
Excellent!
No bla-bla, straight on the point, very 'hands on', covering all aspects of your tools - Thank you!

(and that your tutorial shows in 2min, what I do in 10 ... that's in the nature of things :lol: )

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