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4K+HD Multicam on 1080 Timeline - UHD 'conformed' to HD?

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06 Jan 2015 06:48 - 06 Jan 2015 19:28 #58049 by tainbrain
Hi All -

First post, but before that... thanks are in order for the many things I've learned (and de-bugged) already from this great group from years of being a lurker. The expertise and insight here is very much appreciated!

I am a new owner of a GH4 and shot my first 4K (UHD) last week along with 3 other angles of HD via GH2.

Created nine angle multicam and excitedly dropped the MultiClip into a 1080 timeline.

Selected 'None' in Spatial Conform of a 4K cut expecting to see 'the big 4K zoom in'... and nothing happened.

Looked at the info field of the 4K clip I was hoping to conform and it's listed as 1920 x 1080.

Went back to the angle editor and the info field for that clip and it's listed correctly at 3840 x 2160.

I seem to recall reading that this was a bug but can't find any solid info despite a reasonably exhaustive search. Appreciate any help.

Tainbrain
FCPX 10.1.3 / 2013 MacPro 8-Core / Mavericks 10.9.5 / OWC Elite Pro Dual RAID 0
Last edit: 06 Jan 2015 19:28 by tainbrain. Reason: Correct UHD resolution

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06 Jan 2015 07:37 #58051 by Karsten Schlüter
When your MultiCam clip is set to 1080, size/res is 1080 ... no bug at all.

But, to my observation:
When you apply your MC to a Project, and zoom-in into that 4k material, it is 4k; smart for re-framing (I'm assuming, that's what you want to do…)

I'm using that every week - on a smaller scale (1080 in a 720 MC/Project)

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06 Jan 2015 19:27 #58076 by tainbrain
Hi Karsten -

Thanks very much for the prompt response - I think this answers my question!

And yes, I am wanting to reframe.

When I did so with a 4K clip in a 1080 MC/Project, I couldn't tell if my reframing was working without loss of resolution, etc. I guess that's a good sign that it IS working.

I created a test 4K MC and dropped that into a 1080 Project and the info field for both UHD and HD clips was listed at 3840 x 2160. So apparently the selection of MC and Project settings overrides the actual settings/resolution of the clips themselves (in the info field)... but the function for reframing 4K in a 1080 timeline is still there. Cool. :)

Thanks again!

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07 Jan 2015 06:58 #58107 by Karsten Schlüter

Tainbrain wrote: … I couldn't tell if my reframing was working without loss of resolution, etc. I guess that's a good sign that it IS working.…


test it with extremes - create a 480i project, add your 1080-MC with the 4k clip and zoom-in 1200% (I don't use this 'spatial conform'-thingie for video, somehow, in my mind, this is for stills only :dry: )

.... me no engineer, just a 'user', but it looks like, a MC is no real 'physical clip', but just some 'reference list' to the source clips ...

glad, it worked out for you !!

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