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Workflow tip for keeping track of changes on timeline ?

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09 Dec 2014 23:22 #57145 by Emmanuel
Hi guys,

I'm back from 4 days of audio mix for my short and :woohoo: of course :woohoo: now I still want to make some changes to the timeline...

(Yes I know, should be avoided at any cost, but when ideas pop up, what can I do)

Do you have a tip to keep track of every time change on my timeline, so I can give a precise report to my audio designer ?

I was thinking of placing an adjustment layer on top of it, and place markers on the original points of key clips, so then I can measure their timecode before/after the change.

What do you think ? Do you have a better method ?

(Change List X does the job, but I cannot afford it easily and it only detects changes on the primary storyline)

Thank you!!!

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10 Dec 2014 03:09 - 10 Dec 2014 03:10 #57151 by BenB
Versioning, I do it all the time. Simply use Project Snapshots. That's what they are there for.
help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.1/#verfd45ffa45

When you Duplicate a Project as a Snapshot, you have a version frozen in time, with the date and time added to the name. Then you just keep working on your original. You can also make a Smart Collection that filters for Snapshots, to keep track of them easily.
Last edit: 10 Dec 2014 03:10 by BenB.

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10 Dec 2014 11:34 #57162 by Emmanuel
Thanks Ben

I also work with Versioning all the time. Everytime I make an important change I create a duplicate and work on the incremented version.

However I believe that with Versioning it is not very easy to compare version A and version B in order to tell the audio designer: "I've shortened this shot by X frames, added one shot her, etc."

Or is it ?

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10 Dec 2014 12:36 #57165 by BenB
If I need to inform someone of changes I'm making from one version to another, I'd simply make To-Do makers on those clips.

But that brings up a question; why are you making so many revisions AFTER sending it out to your sound guy? Our studio, and most I know of and work with, don't send sound or effects out until we lock the edit. Once we hit edit lock, nothing changes, except in drastic situations caused by sound/effect/graphics work afterwards. Seems your doing a LOT of extra work updating edits after the audio work is done. Leave the audio work for last.

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10 Dec 2014 12:56 #57170 by Emmanuel
Ben,

Thanks again. You're totally right to point that out, and believe me I am very aware of it.

But it's a shortfilm, with zero budget for it, and I'm lucky that a lot of talented people are helping me out for free. The only downside of course is that they work whenever they have time.

So when a very experienced audio designer tells me "I will give you 4 days early December, after that I'm working on a feature", I have to accept his terms. Then I just try to finish 99% of the film but know in advance that I will run into that kind of problems.

Basically it's the same with the VFX, the co-editor, the music composer, etc. I'm just trying to stay healthy and get this film done ;)

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10 Dec 2014 14:54 #57173 by BenB
Yeah, those are difficult situations.

I'd just note the timecode of where you made changes. Maybe use To-Do markers, like I said. The ability to export a marker list, specifying which markers, would really help.

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10 Dec 2014 14:57 #57175 by DSvoboda356
I believe that Change List X will do this for you as well.

itunes.apple.com/us/app/change-list-x/id694746044?mt=12

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10 Dec 2014 14:59 #57176 by BenB
Yes, forgot that existed! Bravo!

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10 Dec 2014 19:37 #57201 by Emmanuel
Thank you guys.

Yes I've had a look at it but in my timeline I sometimes do some transition that require secondary storylines, and Change List X only spots the changes of the primary storyline. Can solve all the other issues though.

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