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Autitions from the timeline?

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24 Sep 2014 08:28 - 24 Sep 2014 08:29 #53132 by robertdee
Is it possible to combine clips into an audition clip from the timeline? Often I cut takes up on the timeline to remove chaff - it would be good to be able to combine takes from there into a single audition clip. The reason I do this is that it helps me see the whole project at a single glance when everything is laid out with gaps between interviewees and to help me get an idea of timings and how much is to be trimmed out. It also helps me see from waveforms where answers start and stop much more easily than in the browser strip which is too short often.

Probably not but I thought it might be worth asking.
Last edit: 24 Sep 2014 08:29 by robertdee.

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24 Sep 2014 10:16 #53133 by JPM Editor
Hi RobertDee,

No you cannot create auditions from timeline clips.

But this is easy to do combining a few commands:

- Shift F, to reveal in Browser the timeline clip that you want to add to the Audition. The In and Out points in the browser will match the length of the edited clip in the timeline.
- In the timeline, Park the playhead on top of another clip that you want to be part of the Audition.
- Control Shift Y, to merge the Browser clip with the selected timeline clip into a single AUdition.

You can keep Revealing in Browser other clips and adding them to the same Audition with Control Shift Y.

I hope that's helpful!

Jesús Pérez-Miranda
Cut People CEO & Founder
www.cutpeople.es

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25 Sep 2014 18:12 #53180 by haysoos123
This is one of my most wanted features as far as auditions go. I just don't use them as often as I could because there's no easy way to merge multiple clips in the timeline into an audition. Please make a feature request because they'll take it more seriously if more people ask for it.

The workaround is ok, but it's not so great for something like audio auditions if you've put a lot of keyframes in there, for example. You'll have to recreate all your keyframes. Also, it's a lot more keypresses.

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25 Sep 2014 19:24 #53184 by JPM Editor

haysoos123 wrote: The workaround is ok, but it's not so great for something like audio auditions if you've put a lot of keyframes in there, for example. You'll have to recreate all your keyframes./quote]

You wouldn't have to recreate it:

- You could copy the clip before creating the audition.
- Then do a Match Frame.
- Add to the Audition.
- And then do a "paste attributes" to that same clip inside the Audition. You would recover all the effects and keyframes.

I like the idea of creating auditions from timeline clips. However, I think it is not as easy to implement as it seems: for example, creating auditions by dragging clips on top of each other is difficult with timeline clips, since it would interfere with basic editing operations like moving or repositioning clips.

Maybe it could work with the keyboard shortcuts:
- Select a few clips in the timeline.
- Press Comand+Y to "Create an Audition" with the selected clips.

The problem is: where would you place the audition? Which one of the timeline clips would replace?

Maybe it woulc be saved directly in the Browser? This last option is not a viable one, unless FCPX adds the ability to save "regular" timeline clips in the Browser (with effects applied, audio automation, etc.) We can only do this with compound clips.

Another command that would be difficult to implement is "Add to Audition" (Control+Shift+Y). How would this work with timeline clips? We would have to select both, the audition to which we want to add the new timeline clips, as well as the timeline clips themselves...

Anyway, I guess that's for the coders to figure out. All that we can do is request the feature and hope they can surprise us with a clever implementation.


Jesús Pérez-Miranda
Cut People CEO & Founder
www.cutpeople.es

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25 Sep 2014 20:17 #53191 by haysoos123
I think you can have a "target clip" by selecting some other clips, holding down a modification key, and then dragging those clips onto the target clip. The target clip will become the master container of the audition. If the target clip is already an audition, it would simply add those new clips to the audition. Maybe make the default modification key a 3-key one so that it's not easy to do accidentally.

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25 Sep 2014 20:46 #53195 by JPM Editor
Great idea!

It could be as simmple as holding the Y key while dragging a few selected clips to an existing audition in the timeline... or to a regular timeline clip (in this case, the Audition would be created automatically).

This is the same functionality that we have with connected storylines and the G key.

Also, I think this could work well too:
- Press the Y key to open an Audition in the timeline.
- And then it would be great if we could drag one or more timeline clips inside the Audition window.

We can already Delete a particular clip inside an Audition. So why can't we add timeline clips too?

If you like any of these ideas, make a request!!

Jesús Pérez-Miranda
Cut People CEO & Founder
www.cutpeople.es

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