Final Cut X and Safely Duplicating Red Clip

Ok,

So I am going to try my best and explain this. After multiple google searches I have yet to find the answer, maybe I am wording it wrong in my search attempts......

I have a single clip that needs the raw setting adjustment to be different for the same clip in the same timeline that has the clip divided in the timeline. Of course, any adjustments made to one half automatically affect the other half of the same clip.

Question is, how am I am able to separately adjust Red raw setting for the same clip in the timeline while not affecting the raw adjustments made to other half in Final Cut?


I am working off an external drive. I have copied the clip on the drive and imported it separately. That did not work. Final Cut X will read the file type as the same, even if I rename the whole thing.

Hi Mob, and welcome to the forum.

When you correct the raw R3D file the correction is applied to the original media, so it will be reflected in all instances of that clip in the timeline. Just like if you would apply color corrections to a clip in RedCineX. Color correction on raw R3D is only meant for what we call "first light" corrections: general color corrections to make different shots match, to correct for improper lighting or color balance a.s.o.

If you want to apply a separate color correction to different instances of the same raw clip in the timeline: apply the corrections using the FCP X color tools other FCP X color plugins.

- Ronny

Hey Ronny,

Thank you for your answer, while I understand that these adjustments are meant as "first light corrections". I NEED to make some major adjustments to each end of this clip. Raw settings will maintain the best picture quality for my needs. Final Cut will start to destroy the footage a bit with how I am needing to pull & push it.

Am I not able to somehow duplicate the R3D file?

Ah, I understand.

Raw R3D is not just one file, it's a media clip than teams up with an RMD file that contains all the metadata for the media clip. So there is no way to just duplicate a raw R3D file and import the duplicate as a different file in FCP X because X will see the same RMD and it will consider the duplicate as the same clip. Unless you also modify the RMD file that belongs to the duplicate clip. And that's something you don't want to do unless you know what you are doing.

So download Red Cine-X Pro if you don't have it already, and import the problematic raw clip in the application. Here you will do your raw adjustments in two steps:

First you correct the raw clip to fix the first part of the clip you will use in FCP X and you export the corrected raw file as ProRes 4444 (XQ) and name it "part 1".

Then you reset the corrections you made to the raw clip in RCX and you do a new correction based on the things you need to fix for the second part of the clip you will use in FCP X. Then you export the corrected raw file as ProRes 4444 (XQ) and you name it "part 2".

Finally you import the two ProRes XQ files in FCP X and you add them to the timeline. You will have two instances of the same clip, with different color corrections done in raw. As the exported files are ProRes 4444 (XQ) you will be able to make any further corrections you wish in FCP X without losing any quality at all.

- Ronny

Excellent, having trouble finding ProRes 4444 (XQ) in RedCine, but I think thats a good solution you provided, thanks.

You are right, it shows up as an export setting in FCP X but not in RCX Pro yet. So you should use ProRes 4444 instead, which is also a high-end RGB codec.

- Ronny

Awesome, thanks.