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Proxy/offline question in 10.1.2?
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Or read the help doc.
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I was a tad surprised that Proxy was not given a segment in the new library format inspector.
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Not great when working with a mixture of 4K and SD!
So. Is it possible to generate your OWN proxy media and have FCPX recognizing it as such?
I'm thinking about a droplet that crunches files to a certain size and bit rate.
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Now, if you have external media, original and proxies are external, so the workflow doesn't work in that instance. Second, more importantly, everything that you're working with that's not video, any audio effects, narration, music, still images, graphics files, anything that remains in original media, which you normally access even when you switch playback to proxy playback, all that media is lost in this workflow.
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I asked Ripple training and the tweets back was cumbersome workflow, something a 10 minute addition of a 4th library property section would have fixed in a heart beat...
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I would love to see a easy choose where to put proxy files, either default to same as the rest of the media or on an external attached drive....
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It is a very important point Tom has raised, if Proxy is a playback aid, and not a tool for on the road editing, then either Proxy needs to be dual function, playback and transportable, or a transportable easy to access method has to be developed.
A matter of philosophy for Apple...
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I know it's double handling but I was thinking. What if you created the proxy media and then replaced the files named exactly the same names?
I'll give it a try and report back
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So. Is it possible to generate your OWN proxy media and have FCPX recognizing it as such?
I'm thinking about a droplet that crunches files to a certain size and bit rate.
When 10.1 came out, I tried an experiment to see if I could mess with proxies.
I wanted to see if I could make proxies external.
I used compressor to take my original media and add a timecode burn and compress to a size of my choice.
I made sure the file names of 'my' timecoded proxies were the same as the original media (but setting the compressor destination to a different folder).
I then made a load of symlinks to my new proxies and replaced the proxies within the 10.1 library with the symlinks.
The good news is that Final Cut is not fussy when it comes to its proxy files - it looks for matching names - not frame size, creation date or codec.
So when I changed the viewer to show proxies, it displayed my timecoded versions. I could then export this version for collaborators and turn on Optimized/Original when doing the final export.
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alex4D wrote: The good news is that Final Cut is not fussy when it comes to its proxy files - it looks for matching names - not frame size, creation date or codec.
Does this mean that you could create fcpx proxies for all your large, let's say 4K media, and for any small SD stuff, you could almost replace those proxies with ''original frame size" ProRes proxy files? I'm wondering if the mix in expected frame sizes would mess up fcp's scaling calculations when switching between optimised and proxy.
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MsJustine wrote: That is the root of the problem, what is the role and function of Proxy files?
I think the main function is to make it easier to work with large formats like 4K. A lightweight option which can be switched easily when needed.
That, I assume, is the intent. But it can be used, as I do sometimes, as a transportable workflow. I would say this is an extension of it's primary use.
If you keep your library on an internal drive, or on a transport drive, and your original media set to 'leave in place' on external storage, you can unplug and go whenever you need to.
The only additional thing I do if I am using this workflow is to have final cut import audio and graphics into the library bundle. It doesn't make proxies of these, so this way I know I have them if I unplug and run.
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