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When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!

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26 Apr 2014 23:34 #45159 by cococard
When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!! was created by cococard
I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself correctly...but ever since the update to FCPX, when trying to scale lower thirds...all layers under it are affected...thus scaling all images...is this changeable? I don't recall FCPX functioning like this prior to the update.

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26 Apr 2014 23:41 #45160 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
Can you post screen shots of what you're doing and seeing?

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26 Apr 2014 23:52 #45163 by cococard
Replied by cococard on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
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Here we go:

When trying to reduce the size of the lower third using either the TRANSFORM or the SCALE function...all layers are affected.

It will scale down the ENTIRE IMAGE...this didn't happen before.

this particular lower third is a bit large for the image, so I am trying to reduce it a bit to fit into other shots better.

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27 Apr 2014 00:22 #45167 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
There are no layers. The lower third is a single layer. Not sure what you were using before that had separate layers. If you scale the lower third, everything in the text block, including the background scales. You could reduce the size, but increase the font size.

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27 Apr 2014 00:25 - 27 Apr 2014 00:26 #45169 by cococard
Replied by cococard on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
I think I wasn't clear enough...I'm aware that the lower third is all one element....my problem is that when i attempt to scale just the lower third into a smaller size, the video itself is also affected...acording to me this wasn't the case in the prior versions of FCP.

Reducing the size of the lower third also reduces the size of the video portion.
Last edit: 27 Apr 2014 00:26 by cococard.

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27 Apr 2014 00:37 #45171 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
Are you changing the scale function in the inspector? What version are you using? I cannot reproduce what you're seeing in the current version of the application. I don't think I have ever seen what you're describing.

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27 Apr 2014 00:45 #45173 by cococard
Replied by cococard on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
posting a video shortly

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27 Apr 2014 00:49 #45174 by cococard
Replied by cococard on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
vimeo.com/93038995

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27 Apr 2014 00:53 #45175 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
Once again: what version is this? What lower third is that? Who made it? Let's see the lower third controls. Have you tried this with the FCOP built-in titles?

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27 Apr 2014 00:56 #45176 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
PS: Coordinator

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27 Apr 2014 01:01 - 27 Apr 2014 01:02 #45177 by cococard
Replied by cococard on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
10.1.1

the maker is Stupid Raisins

The FCPX lower thirds seem to scale just fine.

stupidraisins.com/lower-pop-final-cut-pro-x-lower-third-titles
Last edit: 27 Apr 2014 01:02 by cococard.

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27 Apr 2014 01:08 #45178 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
Don't know what controls the lower third has, but you might need to contact them.

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27 Apr 2014 01:11 #45179 by cococard
Replied by cococard on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
the actual lower thirds controls don't have a scale.

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27 Apr 2014 02:48 #45180 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
Do the actual lower third controls have a drop zone into which the image is placed or which loads the background into the lower third? This is a problem the stupid raisins have to resolve.

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27 Apr 2014 03:02 #45181 by cococard
Replied by cococard on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
the lower third "TITLE" inspector tab DOES have a SCALE section, but when its manipulated...all the layers are affected...video and lower third is scaled

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27 Apr 2014 03:09 #45182 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
Can you post a screen shot of this? I didn't ask you about the scale function.

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27 Apr 2014 06:58 - 27 Apr 2014 07:02 #45185 by Andreas Kiel
Replied by Andreas Kiel on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
Thats normal behavior since 10.0 for several titles – it never has changed.
A title created in Motion by default has a background layer. This won't show up in FCPX, but its there and will affect all underlying clips.

So if you can edit the title in Motion remove the background layer and save. This will bring the "normal" behavior.

-Andreas

Edit: just saw that the title is an FXFactory one. This one can't be modified. You have to contact the creator of the plugin to correct the mistake he made.
Last edit: 27 Apr 2014 07:02 by Andreas Kiel.

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27 Apr 2014 08:54 #45188 by Overturf
Replied by Overturf on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
I have encountered similar issues with other titles. A little workaround can help:

Apply the title as in your first screenshot. Select it in the timeline and hit Opt-G to turn it into a compound clip. This can then be scaled without affecting the background - at least it helped with my problems so far.

Good luck!

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27 Apr 2014 09:11 #45189 by Andreas Kiel
Replied by Andreas Kiel on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
Thats a good workaround!

As said this issue has nothing to do with any version of FCP X and its not a FCP X bug.
It's the way the title is designed.

So if you got Motion and want to create an Adjustment Layer just create a new title. Then remove the "Type Text Here" layer and save.
If you want a title remove the "Title Background" instead.

-Andreas

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27 Apr 2014 11:30 #45190 by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic When changing sizes in items...lower layers are affected!!!!!!!
It is what makes Adjustment Layers work.

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