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20 Mar 2014 11:35 #43044 by gaddster
Speaking to an apple 'creative' expert before and we were discussing colour correction

He said, rather than add colour correction to different clips in the timeline 1 by 1, he create a multi cam clip and applies the correction to the original clip thus transforming the whole clip (and affecting the edits on the timeline.

Have i understood this right? does anybody else use this method?

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20 Mar 2014 12:21 #43045 by BenB
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Seems a very complex, round about way to do something much easier.

You do the correction to the fist "shot" from that master clip (parent in the browser).
Then you copy that clip, and Paste Attributes to the rest of the clips in the Timelne from that Master clip. Very quick, easy.

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20 Mar 2014 12:26 - 20 Mar 2014 12:27 #43048 by gaddster
Thanks BenB

I thought I could do that, but he insisted this was a great way to do it.

PS just tried your method, much easier, thanks

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20 Mar 2014 12:37 #43053 by BenB
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FYI, I've been teaching FCP as an Apple cert'd trainer since version 4. Since the first day an Apple retail store opened, I've heard dozens and dozens of horror stories from FCP users, going there, getting advice, and screwing up workflows and app configurations. My strong advice to everyone is NEVER go to an Apple retail store for FCP advice or info. They all have one guy certified in it, but he's certified in how to sell hardware for it, and he's usually very WRONG. Never trust those guys to know crap about a pro app.

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20 Mar 2014 12:41 - 20 Mar 2014 12:42 #43055 by gaddster
Good point, its hard not to trust them when they introduce themselves as a FCPX creative expert..

I actually went it to ask advice about something else and got sidetracked. I asked him was there any way of increasing the volume for every piece in the timeline and he wasn't sure (I am still unsure too) .. Basically i took one piece of footage, broke it up, put it back together but needed to increase the volume

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20 Mar 2014 13:08 #43059 by Seanus
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The other thing a lot of people don't know is that you can open ANY clip in its own timeline. Thus giving you the ability to add colour correction.

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20 Mar 2014 13:18 #43063 by gaddster
so, if i understand this correctly, you would open a new project ad put the event footage in a timeline, add colour correction and it will be picked up by the other edited project in the timeline?

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20 Mar 2014 13:52 #43065 by ronny courtens
Not really. What Seanus means is that you can color correct a clip in the Event Browser by R-clicking it and choosing "Open in Timeline".

This will open the clip in its own timeline allowing you to apply a color correction (such as white balance or other one-light passes) to the entire clip. The same applies to audio enhancements. Then when you cut the clip in a new Project every instance of that clip will have the corrections you applied to the master clip.

This method allows you to apply basic enhancements to a clip before you cut it. Instances of this clip that are already cut up in a Project timeline won't be affected by this procedure.

-Ronny

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20 Mar 2014 13:57 #43066 by gaddster
Ahh I see, Thanks Ronnie

ould this method have worked though for eradicating 'hum' from a 7 min edit (which lowered the volume), then I had to dissect it all all up for lighting edits, but then realised the volume of all the edits was a little low..

Or should I have fixed the volume level before splitting up the piece?

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20 Mar 2014 14:07 #43067 by ronny courtens
Hi Phil,

When you have a long clip with bad audio or with a wrong color balance you can use this method to correct these issues on the master clip in the Event Browser. Then when you cut up the clip in a Project you don't have to worry about these issues anymore, the corrections will be applied to every instance of that clip you put on the timeline.

So you are correct: you should have done these corrections before starting to edit. Once a clip is cut up in a Project timeline you can only make changes to the instances of the clip that are on the Project timeline. To do this follow Ben's advice: make the correction to one instance, copy that instance and use Paste Attributes to apply the correction(s) to the rest of the clips in the Timeline.

-Ronny

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20 Mar 2014 14:11 #43068 by gaddster
Thanks Ronnie

Darn, that would of saved me so much of my precious time the other night.

Think I will try this out on some test footage as I have a big conference to film tomorrow so next week will be busy editing B)

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20 Mar 2014 14:37 #43072 by Jonathan Levin
I would never have thought of this but makes total sense. Color correct before edit.

I just color corrected many clips in the project, and it was not fast!

Fine tune at the end.

Thanks

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21 Mar 2014 02:12 #43098 by Seanus
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ronny courtens wrote: Not really. What Seanus means is that you can color correct a clip in the Event Browser by R-clicking it and choosing "Open in Timeline".

This will open the clip in its own timeline allowing you to apply a color correction (such as white balance or other one-light passes) to the entire clip. The same applies to audio enhancements. Then when you cut the clip in a new Project every instance of that clip will have the corrections you applied to the master clip.

This method allows you to apply basic enhancements to a clip before you cut it. Instances of this clip that are already cut up in a Project timeline won't be affected by this procedure.

-Ronny


Thanks for answering that Ronnie! It was way past my bed time when I answered that question.

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21 Mar 2014 09:08 #43114 by ronny courtens
My pleasure, Seanus. And thank you for pointing out this feature in FCPX that is indeed not known by all users. Being able apply color or audio corrections to long clips in the Event before cutting them up in the timeline can be a real time saver!

-Ronny

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