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Best way to eradicate or reduce audio buzz in fcpx?

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13 Mar 2014 10:58 #42589 by gaddster
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A client has some footage which has a hum/buzz that needs reducing or removing?

Anyone recommend the best way to do it in fcpx or Logic Pro x ?

Thanks
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13 Mar 2014 12:00 #42591 by BenB
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The built-in Hum Remover in FCPX is really good.
help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.1/#verc1fab873

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13 Mar 2014 13:53 #42603 by gaddster
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Thanks BenB

I will have a go at that ;)
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13 Mar 2014 19:06 #42623 by Redifer
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I do not like the 60Hz hum remover AT ALL. It's awful. Horrible! It adds reverb. If someone's mic has the buzz and you enable it, suddenly they sound very reverby. It's bad. Really bad. Unacceptably bad.

To prove my point here's a before and after example using the Hum remover in the Audio Enhancements.

www.joeredifer.com/crap/Buzzcompare.mp3

Not sure how that added reverb is acceptable to y'all.

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13 Mar 2014 21:45 - 13 Mar 2014 21:47 #42633 by BenB
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That is odd. I use it all the time, and have never heard it add reverb, by itself. Did you do any noise reduction, also? Also, the level of that hum is really, really loud, too. I've never recorded hum that loud before. Then again, any background noise that is as loud, if not louder than the voices, as in that example, are going to be seriously problematic to deal with, and require better third party tools.
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14 Mar 2014 20:17 #42697 by Redifer
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No that was raw audio and then raw audio + hum remover. I assume it just moves (duplicates) the audio 1/60th of a second in one direction or the other to get rid of the hum. Thus the reason for the echo.

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14 Mar 2014 21:18 #42701 by anickt
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Try background noise removal at 40-50%

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14 Mar 2014 21:26 #42703 by Darren Roark
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izotope have an amazing plugin set for FCPX. It's spendy for sure, but it can work miracles.

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15 Mar 2014 08:55 #42710 by gaddster
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Thanks Darren

Not heard of that software before, but all reviews say its really good.

Im looking on the internet for examples of rx3 removing hum etc
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16 Mar 2014 03:23 - 16 Mar 2014 03:28 #42732 by Redifer
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Just tried Izotope's 10-day free trial and it bogs FCPX down like no tomorrow. It's REALLY greedy with the resources. It could not eliminate the buzz at all no matter what I tried. In fact their hum remover is worse than the one built in to FCPX. I do not recommend that software at all, at least not for use with FCPX and not for doing what I'm trying to do.

Does anyone know how I can remove the Plug-ins from FCPX while still letting me play around with the main app for 10 days?
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16 Mar 2014 09:13 #42735 by gaddster
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Redifier

I have been testing also and it seems fine to me, Im using a 2010 macbook pro, 8gb with SSD so its not a TOTR model either.

Where you testing it out on large files?
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16 Mar 2014 20:45 #42771 by Redifer
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No, just on a single clip that had the buzz, maybe 10 seconds max.

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16 Mar 2014 20:48 #42772 by Darren Roark
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The plugin is pretty involved and way over my head when it comes to the flexibility of control. It's worked great for me on Red footage where audio went to camera on ten minute takes.

Redlifer, you are a proud owner of a nMP right? That is strange as I'm on a hackintosh that isn't much better than an iMac.

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16 Mar 2014 20:57 #42773 by gaddster
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My normal machine (32gb iMac i7) doesn't slow down either

But, there again, its a detailed plugin and I am still trying to get my head around it (and get it to work)
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16 Mar 2014 21:00 #42774 by Darren Roark
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My first job was at a sound mixing house. My boss was an amazingly talented mad scientist when it came to sound. He could remove pretty much any buzz or noise by knowing what frequencies to attack with pretty old equipment by today's standards.

My head is spinning thinking back on that.

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17 Mar 2014 20:54 - 17 Mar 2014 20:55 #42856 by Redifer
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Darren Roark wrote: Redlifer, you are a proud owner of a nMP right? That is strange as I'm on a hackintosh that isn't much better than an iMac.


I am the proud awaiter of the new Mac Pro. Lemme check on it's status right now... Look at that no change, still "processing". Hopefully I get it before the NEXT Mac Pro comes out.

The app works fine on it's own without any lag or slowdown. But in FCPX it's not so easy so FCPX must be restricting it (keep in mind that I'm forced to use 10.0.9). I was able to remove the buzz with noise reduction after training it on what the buzz sounded like but the hum remover doesn't really do much of anything for me.
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17 Mar 2014 21:50 #42861 by gaddster
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Ahh I am using 10.1 fcpx

I am just working on the files now, shocking footage with dreadful audio and a lovely hum present.

I used the background noise removal tool to try and lower hum but the client wants to use the file to project and play through a PA system so I can't see how I can get rid of this completely
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11 Apr 2014 06:09 #44370 by jthaler
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I've been getting great results with SoundSoap 3 . Not very expensive and very easy to use and get great results quickly... a total no-brainer if you need to remove hiss, pops/clicks, hum, a/c noise, background noises, etc...

Jeremy

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