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plug in bug in fcpx 10.1.1 with 5KHD files

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24 Feb 2014 02:15 - 24 Feb 2014 02:19 #41627 by paul sch
getting this with several plug ins (refine, film convert, beauty box) in fcpx 10.1.1 with red raw 5KHD files....image gets cropped and a strip of the left side gets adde don to the right....i have been in contact with film convert and beauty box, they mentioned they had seen it before, looks like a fcpx bug....of course apple does not know anything...



edit: i keep trying to add a screenshot to this and select the file and insert it, but it does not show up?
Last edit: 24 Feb 2014 02:19 by paul sch.

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24 Feb 2014 02:20 #41628 by Tom Wolsky
I think you need to talk to the third party software provider. What should Apple know about what they're doing.

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24 Feb 2014 03:14 #41629 by paul sch
well that is what i am doing....and all the plug ins i am working with show the same problem.....so it's not just one software provider....

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24 Feb 2014 06:20 #41632 by Tom Wolsky
So it's a common error probably caused by a change in SDK. Hopefully they'll come up with a solution soon. What are they saying?

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24 Feb 2014 15:19 #41646 by paul sch
i provided them with some 5K footage and hopefully they can figure something out....problem is the same with all these plug ins, don't know if others as well, these are the ones i am using...

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24 Feb 2014 15:37 - 24 Feb 2014 15:41 #41648 by ronny courtens
I have just tested this.

Here's a raw 5K R3D clip on a 5K timeline:



Here's reFine applied to it:



Here's Beauty Box applied:




No issues whatsoever, so definitely not an FCPX bug. Are you sure you have the latest versions of the plugins?

-Ronny
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24 Feb 2014 15:47 #41649 by BenB
Also, does the hardware (GPU) seem to be robust enough to deal with 5K?

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24 Feb 2014 18:42 #41656 by paul sch
hmmm....thanks for that ronny....i think i know that footage, i think it is from the red one? what are the pixel dimensions? the files i am working with are 4800x2700....
my hardware runs the files without any problems at all....i also have a red rocket, but even without i don't really have any issues (on lower quality of course)....the problem shows up the second i add the plug ins i mentioned.....
have done several un and re installs, even set up a new user and ran fcpx "fresh" with different footage....same thing.....
i tried the same footage and plug ins in resolve and don't have any issues there....

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24 Feb 2014 20:27 #41665 by ronny courtens
Hey Paul,

That's indeed some 5120x2560 R3D sample footage I had laying around. I cannot post any client clips, but I don't see any problems with these plugins on current RED 4K footage I'm working on.

Keep us informed on your progress with this issue.

-Ronny

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24 Feb 2014 21:01 #41668 by paul sch
just got off the phone with a very helpful apple tech… we played around for a while…but could not get rid of it…i guess the issue is with how fcpx work wit certain files and certain plug ins…they can’t do anything, all their effects work fine…he did acknowledge that it is strange to have 3 different plug ins show the same problem…does not really help me though….

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24 Feb 2014 21:07 #41670 by ronny courtens
Yes, I agree this is strange. I don't know if this is possible for you, but if you could send me a couple of seconds of a clip that is giving you trouble I could test it on different machines here. My private e-mail address is ronnycourtens(at)mac(dot)com.

-Ronny

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25 Feb 2014 00:47 #41699 by BenB
Be sure to fill out the FCPX feedback page right away, also! Give them the details!

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25 Feb 2014 18:47 #41734 by paul sch
downloaded that clip as well and am getting the same issue...
something is strange....

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25 Feb 2014 20:20 #41738 by ronny courtens
Yes, it is. As I have mentioned in PM I have downloaded your original R3D footage and had no issues with it on different systems. There definitely is something weird going on on your machine. Just a wild guess: do you see the same problem with the RedRocket disconnected?

-Ronny

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25 Feb 2014 21:10 #41742 by paul sch
same result with rocket on or off.....
just got a response from filmconvert....after looking at my logs, they mentioned it might be a conflict between the fcpx and ofx (for resolve) plug ins....

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25 Feb 2014 21:18 #41745 by ronny courtens
That could indeed explain why everything you have tried does work for me. We have no machines running both FCPX and Resolve, we run Resolve on separate color grading workstations with dedicated grading monitors. So I cannot have any conflicting FxPlug/ofx plugin versions. Thanks for the heads-up.

-Ronny

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26 Feb 2014 18:00 #41788 by paul sch
so here is the latest.....
film convert works IF the rendering is set to GPU render ...CPU render shows the issue...and GPU render is sloooooow compared to CPU, so not really an option for me....
beauty box does not even pretend to run in GPU render so that is out....
both developers mentioned that this IS a bug (known to apple) in the OS and time will tell...
i am for now left to find a workaround...thanks for everybody's help....

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