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Keyframing Transform Ease in and Out

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01 Feb 2014 20:29 #40348 by amerrick
So I have a large compound clip with many many still images and a couple video clips dispersed throughout the frame. I want to start full frame, then drift over one of the video clips then drift back out to almost full screen and drift fully into the 2nd video clip. This takes place over 45+ seconds.

Keyframing has a lot of bugs in fcpx.
Option 1 - Use position and scale. I like the bezier curves here. This is what I want to do with some ease ins and outs. I like having these gentle S curves. Problem is fcpx adds in some involuntary jumps in random directions when using bezier curves. I've tried the adding and deleting a keyframe a few frames before and after multiple times. That gets rid of the involuntary jumps, but it also makes everything linear. Which I do not want. Any ideas here?

Option 2 - Use crop. Crop only appears to be linear. No way to make some nice curves of position with easing in and out. Any ideas here?

Option 3 - Use Kenburns by blading the clip and match frames. Problem is you can only use the viewer and my final zoom in is not precise enough. Also matching frames is not precise enough. If you could manually enter values like crop, this would at least get me a nice ease in and out, but I would still be missing the curves.

Option 4 - Some kind of plugin that I haven't found yet. Alex4d has curves plugin that has all the controls I want, but it only zooms to 400% and I want to go over 1000%. Basically is there a keyframe transform plug in that allows for smooth bezier curves and for ease in and out out there perhaps? I would gladly pay for this function.

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02 Feb 2014 23:30 #40414 by peteramwiggins
I'd be tempted to construct this in Motion and use the 3D camera. then you will have access to the curves in the keyframe editor plus cool things like lights & depth of field

Easier & sexier results

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03 Feb 2014 01:13 - 03 Feb 2014 01:17 #40415 by Redifer
There are no curves for the scale attribute in FCPX. You can get cuves using the Ken Burns effect. I think saying "Use Motion instead" is a cop-out. These are things that NEED to be fixed in FCPX. All this stuff worked fine in FCP7, why shouldn't it in X? My guess is that Apple purposely limits things like this to make people buy After Effects. Err I mean Motion. But After Effects is better.

To get rid of the random jumps you need to have two identical keyframes together 1 frame apart at both ends of the motion. I hope that makes sense.
Last edit: 03 Feb 2014 01:17 by Redifer.

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03 Feb 2014 02:28 #40419 by ddixon
Smooth Move from Alex4D will get the look you're talking about I think, but I don't know if it works on compound clips. It's free though so might be worth a try.

I agree - if Ken Burns can do smooth animations with easing, I don't see why keyframing can't.

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06 Feb 2014 19:35 #40672 by amerrick
So Smooth Move does not work. Does not keep the full quality of all the clips within the compound clip when I zoom in unfortunately. Sent feedback to apple requesting keyframes to be fixed as they should be. Looking more and more like I am going to have to build it in some other program which is very unfortunate.
Any other ideas/plugins out there to keep this within fcpx?

Seems like someone could make some money on a good proper keyframe plugin.

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06 Feb 2014 20:14 #40681 by Redifer
I'm pretty sure if Apple had any intention whatsoever of fixing the keyframing they would have done it by now. They want you to use (and buy) Motion. They don't understand why anyone would ever want control of such things in FCPX. I don't think the people who MAKE the program actually use it. And if they do, they sure are crappy users.

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06 Feb 2014 20:33 #40683 by ddixon
I've found that for more slide show type effects like this, Fotomagico from Boinx will do a lot of this. it's pricey (approx. $100), but allows combining photos and video with a lot of control - and it has smooth, eased curves. I sometimes do big slide shows in that and export to ProRes and import to FCPX for finishing.

I think they have a demo.

BTW - I have no problems at all with Smooth Move maintaining quality on zooms, and of course it does work on compound clips. In fact, if you have a photo that is not filling the frame, you have to make it a compound clips or any scaling up is contained in the original picture area instead of growing.

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06 Feb 2014 20:48 #40685 by haysoos123
Keyframing had a lot of bugs in FCP7 that they never fixed, especially when you started to use larger images. The easing in particular was bugged much of the time. Also, it tended to crash if you used a lot of large images because of its limited memory usage (I mean even reasonably sized ones, not even gigantic). To avoid this, I almost always sent to Motion, which created way better, smoother moves.

In FCPX, I would only do basic moves on images, and I would encourage you to keyframe the crop tool instead. I think they fixed some keyframing issues on position/scale, but didn't fix all of them. I agree that they should really pay attention to this because "send to motion" isn't there yet, so doing them in Motion all the time would be a real pain.

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20 Mar 2014 03:57 - 20 Mar 2014 03:58 #43031 by rempit
I too facing the same "FCPX BUGS PROBLEMS" especially in the keyframing.

The keyframe function in FCPX won't let me HOLD/FREEZE the frame, I've already spent 3 days just in clicking all the possibilities in the keyframe, till now I haven't got any solutions.
Last edit: 20 Mar 2014 03:58 by rempit.

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