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25 Dec 2013 18:59 #37218 by djnav4
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Help Help Help!!!!
I was working on my project and my mac was set to update automatically and my FCPX updated to 10.1 and when I opened FCPX It asked me to save my project and I did but It had to close FCPX first then when It opened back up all my files was missing from my project IM trying to relink them but it will not link them back.
Some files are there and some are not. Someone please help me I need this done by friday before I through this mac out the window !

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25 Dec 2013 20:29 #37221 by Clifton17
Replied by Clifton17 on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
I had some similar problems after I updated, I was checking out some of the new features in first few minutes and FCP crashed my Mac. When I restarted everything my latest project and all it's files would not show up.
Nor had FCP been running long enough to create a back up.
After looking into how FCP stores The new Library files etc I hit on this idea.
During the install process a folder had been created with all my old projects and events in it.
I decided to try returning my files to the state they were in before FCPX updated.( I removed the new library files, then I put copies of the Old FCP events and Old FCP projects folders into my " movies Folder.
I the loaded up FCP and got it to scan my hard drive and it went through the updating process of all my old projects again and created new libraries. Everything now appeared and I carefully created a new Library structure as per some of the Ripple training guys suggestions.

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25 Dec 2013 20:55 #37222 by djnav4
Replied by djnav4 on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
Ok so if you don't mind can you tell me step by step what you did ?
Im in my Macintosh HD drive/Users/Nate/Movies/Final Cut Backups
or Macintosh HD/Users/Nate/Movies/Macintosh HD's Project and events ?
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25 Dec 2013 22:46 - 25 Dec 2013 22:47 #37231 by dgwvideo
Replied by dgwvideo on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
You will have to make some decisions at this point, and your options may be limited depending on whether or not you have a backup copy of FCPX 10.0.9 (or previous versions). I suspect your projects and events may still be intact if you allowed FCPX 10.1 to properly update and convert them to the new Libraries. 10.1 operates with a completely new data structure, so:

OPTION 1: Use 10.1 and find the Library it created for your project. This should appear by default in the Event browser of FCPX provided you did not CLOSE the library. If you did close it, choose from the menu, FILE - Open Library and see if you can locate it there. Note that your projects under FCPX 10.1 are now located inside the Events (which all reside in the Library). Any drive that you had connected during the update process that contained Final Cut Events and Final Cut Projects folders (with actual projects and events in them) got automatically converted to Libraries sorted by the drive volume.

OPTION 2: If you have a backup copy of a previous version of FCPX (10.0.9 or earlier) you can re-install that in place of the 10.1 version. The new 10.1 version made hard links to your events and projects and placed them in folders with the naming convention OLD Final Cut Events (etc.). Create folders named Final Cut Events and Final Cut Projects wherever you had them before the update and copy or move the data from the OLD Final...etc. folders to these new folders. When you start your previous version of FCPX you should be able to salvage your projects, or at least relink the media.

In the future, do not allow your Mac to update your applications automatically. Auto updating of the OS is fine, but I prefer to be in control of all updates to my system.

Hope this helps.

UPDATE: corrected "media browser" to Event Browser" above.

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Last edit: 25 Dec 2013 22:47 by dgwvideo.

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25 Dec 2013 23:28 #37236 by Clifton17
Replied by Clifton17 on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
I did something similar to option 1 as dgwvideo described. All my old data had been put in a file named "old final cut events and projects" etc, this was a root file on one of my drives. In there were all my events and projects as they had been under FCP 10.09. It was not in my user file structure.
Under 10.9 these used to be in two separate files my my " user movies folder" So I reinstated them there , then having used finder to remove the new libraries created by FCP 10.1 , when I restarted FCP I allowed it to scan my drives again and convert my projects and everything appeared ok this time. ( I still kept copies of my old data again too...just in case.

Your problem my be different to mine and dgwvideo's option 2 maybe best for you if you can do that ( I could not )

Key thing is find the folder where 10.1 put your old data...... I found a tutorial video on You tube which explains how the whole library structure worked and how you could restore corrupt events etc. ( before 10.1) this helped me figure out what was going on , as FCP is just a database.

Good luck, and goodnight from the Uk, happy Christmas!

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26 Dec 2013 00:33 #37238 by Neguah
Replied by Neguah on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
Anyone know where the dates have gone in the library? Usually all my clips are sorted after dates. They are now as well, but there are no headlines telling me which dates the clips are shot. I have to click on the clip and look in the info to be able to see the date.

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26 Dec 2013 06:02 #37272 by dgwvideo
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Have you selected to sort the clips by "content created" using the small gear icon at the bottom left of the event browser?

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26 Dec 2013 11:27 #37300 by Neguah
Replied by Neguah on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
Ahh, there it is! Thank you very much! Not sure why I didn't find it yesterday. Thanks a ton!

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26 Dec 2013 11:57 #37303 by Neguah
Replied by Neguah on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
Got another problem. It's often my external hard drives doesn't show in my libraries. So in order to find it I have to go through Finder and double click the project and events package.

But now I have a new hard drive. Have formatted it in Mac OS extended(journaled). It doesn't show... no matter what I do. Reboot, restart, disconnect. Nothing!

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26 Dec 2013 12:11 #37306 by Clifton17
Replied by Clifton17 on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
Sorry not sure about your new drive formatting problem, presumably you mean it does not show in finder?

I use a usb3 drive for storing most of my media which works fine. Once you have created a library in FCP 10.1 I find you can access it by "right " clicking the FCP icon ( sorry I am an ex PC convert) and choosing the one I want or I can use the file drop down menu menu in FCP itself if it's already open , all my libraries on whatever drive ate listed there.

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26 Dec 2013 12:53 #37309 by Neguah
Replied by Neguah on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
Thanks for you reply!
My hard drive shows in Finder, but not in FCXP(under library). I took your advice and added a new library. But I had to give my hard drive a name even though I gave it a name when formatting it. In the previous version of FCPX the hard drive popped up when I plugged the hard drive in the usb. And I'm using USB3.

And every time I insert a hard drive I have to open it through Finder in order for it to show in FCPX.

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26 Dec 2013 13:30 - 26 Dec 2013 13:34 #37311 by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
A few observations:

All Libraries don't show up automatically when you launch FCP X, like Events and Projects used to. Only the ones that you had opened when FCP X was last quit.

Go to the File menu, Open Library, and to Other, and then Locate.

It is now called (officially) the Libraries pane, not the Event Library.

Libraries don't sort according to DATE, just alphabetically as Libraries. They don't show what drive they are on explicitly (mouse over for a tool tip with the path). The only controls for sorting by date and such are for the Browser.

Of course I'm going to recommend reading my free two part article at macProVideo about Libraries, too. Duh...
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28 Dec 2013 01:07 #37463 by marchyman
Replied by marchyman on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
Libraries not showing what drive they are located in is worth feedback to Apple, IMHO. I will create a sparse disk image to hold a library for archiving finished projects/events. I may give the library the same name as the library on my working disk. That's where the confusion begins. :ohmy:

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28 Dec 2013 02:44 #37466 by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
That annoyed me at first, but I have to admit, today I'm getting very used to the mouse-over to see the path. And am appreciating the more uncluttered Libraries pane view. BUT, that said, it would be great to have the option to turn off/on sorting by hard drive, like before.

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28 Dec 2013 04:27 #37473 by dgwvideo
Replied by dgwvideo on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
I would also like the option of disabling certain events within the same library.

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28 Dec 2013 14:24 - 28 Dec 2013 14:26 #37505 by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
I'm going to side with Philip Hodgetts here, and say that if hiding Events is a need, you're not grasping the new Library concept. Harsh I know, but, after working with several editors locally, I've come around to that conclusion. Besides, the mechanics of hiding Events inside of a Library under the hood would be nightmarish.

Rethink how you structure media management. Things that need to be hidden should now be Projects.

And, you can always Consolidate an Event to another location for archiving, then delete it in your Library.
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28 Dec 2013 17:00 #37529 by dgwvideo
Replied by dgwvideo on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
Ben, consider this scenario and keep in mind that I create one library per customer and only open those necessary for the project I work on.

I produce all the video for a local hockey team so that library is called " hockey team" for example. Inside that library I have roughly 25 events with each event being home game 1, home game 2, coach interviews, etc. (footage from the unique day of filming). One event = one day = one camera card reel. Each event is roughly 30 to 50 GB of footage.

Also in that same library are all the projects for that client (TV commercials, recruitment videos, highlight reels, theater ads, etc.). Small documentaries use clips from several of the events, game highlights use clips from just that game, action reels use clips from a few of the events, and so on

So, when I am editing a game highlight reel that uses just one event, disabling (not moving out of the library) all the other events not needed would reduce screen clutter, maybe system resources, etc. This is what I am referring to.

Can you advise your recommended structure for this situation. I would like to keep all client material together, just don't always need every bit if it.

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29 Dec 2013 01:30 - 29 Dec 2013 01:38 #37572 by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
A thought would be to perhaps break it up into separate Libraries, maybe. Nothing wrong with that. And place all of those Libraries in a folder called Hockey Team on your media drive. If you have stuff you only need occasionally, put it in the Hockey Archive Library. Lots of ways to do this. If you have footage you want to archive, put that in an Archive Event, then Consolidate it into an archived Library. Use Libraries like you used to use Events.

Also remember that Projects can have keywords now, and you can do a Smart Search for Projects. There's more organizational options.

Point is, you now have MORE organizational options, but you can't hide Events. In speaking with Philip Hodgetts, hiding Events now that they are inside of a Library database, would be a nightmare, and potential disasters could happen. Thus, re-think what an Event is. It is not what it used to be. Libraries are the top level now. So we need to adapt. Brainstorming things is what a lot of editors are doing, and some of my local FCP X editors are coming up with very interesting ways to work with Libraries.

I worked with a local school many years ago on a similar project for a team. Even in FCP 4.5, I was selecting my best shots for each event, and placing them in a collection (an FCP 4.5 project) of Stock Footage. Then when I was done with a Project, I didn't need to keep everything, just my Stock Footage. I had that stuff in a Project (FCP 4.5 project) by itself, and trashed stuff I'd never use again as I went on. Every situation is different.

I'm hoping we can have Folders to put Events into soon, that would be really helpful.
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29 Dec 2013 02:54 #37584 by dgwvideo
Replied by dgwvideo on topic the new FCPX 10.1 update
Thanks for weighing in. I'll experiment with some of your suggestions.

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30 Dec 2013 01:46 #37633 by djnav4
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I appreciate your help I tried revert back using the steps you posted but was not successful I end up redoing the video all over in 3 days it was due saturday afternoon I was up all night with no sleep finishing it. It worked out though I will post it so you can see the results if you like.
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