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FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
11 Nov 2013 10:02 - 11 Nov 2013 10:10 #33991
by funkpost
FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?! was created by funkpost
Hi there.
I have a multicam project that I am working on. Prior to Mavericks, I had no issues with my 3x 1080p streams at all. Now, after upgrading to Mavericks, I wanted to finish my project. But FCPX is dropping frames - especially when the camera angle is changed.
Have anyone else experienced this?
FCPX seems to be slower at launching than before too. I have tried to remove the preference files, but that didn't change a thing.
About my system
I am streaming from a G-Drive FW800, running an iMac 2.93Ghz i7 with 16GB ram, 500GB SSD + 1TB HDD. All my FCPX documentfiles/videos are on the G-Drive. All software is up-to-date.
My settings are (unchanged from before the upgrade):
- No background rendering
- Using optimized media
I have a multicam project that I am working on. Prior to Mavericks, I had no issues with my 3x 1080p streams at all. Now, after upgrading to Mavericks, I wanted to finish my project. But FCPX is dropping frames - especially when the camera angle is changed.
Have anyone else experienced this?
FCPX seems to be slower at launching than before too. I have tried to remove the preference files, but that didn't change a thing.
About my system
I am streaming from a G-Drive FW800, running an iMac 2.93Ghz i7 with 16GB ram, 500GB SSD + 1TB HDD. All my FCPX documentfiles/videos are on the G-Drive. All software is up-to-date.
My settings are (unchanged from before the upgrade):
- No background rendering
- Using optimized media
Last edit: 11 Nov 2013 10:10 by funkpost.
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11 Nov 2013 10:17 - 11 Nov 2013 10:18 #33992
by funkpost
Replied by funkpost on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
I just switched to Proxy media and the problem persists!
I simply can't finish my work now, as the computer constantly stops the playback.
I will try to move the media to my built in 1TB HDD to see if it's a FW800 issue.
I simply can't finish my work now, as the computer constantly stops the playback.
I will try to move the media to my built in 1TB HDD to see if it's a FW800 issue.
Last edit: 11 Nov 2013 10:18 by funkpost.
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11 Nov 2013 10:42 - 11 Nov 2013 10:42 #33993
by NocoDave
Replied by NocoDave on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
Is it possible that you had the "Warn when dropping frames..." checkboxes in the preferences disabled before. And now they, or one of them, have somehow become enabled?
Last edit: 11 Nov 2013 10:42 by NocoDave.
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11 Nov 2013 10:45 #33994
by funkpost
Replied by funkpost on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
It was disabled before, yes - but the video streams ran smoothly. I only switched the warning on, as I wanted to make sure it was actually frame dropping that occurred.
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11 Nov 2013 11:06 #33996
by NocoDave
Replied by NocoDave on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
I'm assuming you narrowed it down to the "..due to disk speed" option and that's why your mentioning the firewire 800. I use a firewire 800 raid 0 and haven't had the issue yet, but I always have the "..due to disk speed" checkbox ticked and haven't been doing anything heavy in FCPX over the last few weeks.
Sorry I can't help, if you work it out please post incase it happens here.
Sorry I can't help, if you work it out please post incase it happens here.
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11 Nov 2013 11:48 #34000
by funkpost
Replied by funkpost on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
I have now moved the whole project to my internal 1TB harddisk (not the built in SSD with the system). I have the exact same issues!
Next test: I'm currently copying the whole thing to my SSD - update in a little while.
Also, I have tried removing all of my 3rd party plugins - no luck.
Next test: I'm currently copying the whole thing to my SSD - update in a little while.
Also, I have tried removing all of my 3rd party plugins - no luck.
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11 Nov 2013 12:21 #34002
by funkpost
Replied by funkpost on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
I have now tested this with my built in 500GB SSD drive. I still have frame dropping!
I wonder what causes this, as I know for a fact that it isn't any of my drives (it all worked without a glitch a week ago - prior to Mavericks).
Anyone?
I wonder what causes this, as I know for a fact that it isn't any of my drives (it all worked without a glitch a week ago - prior to Mavericks).
Anyone?
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11 Nov 2013 12:36 - 11 Nov 2013 12:42 #34004
by funkpost
Replied by funkpost on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
GOT IT!!
I nailed it down to this: When ever my Audio Meters are ON, they cause frame dropping. As soon as I turn them off (CMD + SHIFT + EIGHT) - no problems what so ever.
This must be a bug, don't you agree?
HOW I FOUND OUT:
I made a new user on my system. Booted FCPX. The Audio Meters are disabled as default on FCPX. Once I enabled the Audio Meters, the same problem occurred here.
I went back to my main user, disabled the Audio Meters - and everything ran smoothly again.
I nailed it down to this: When ever my Audio Meters are ON, they cause frame dropping. As soon as I turn them off (CMD + SHIFT + EIGHT) - no problems what so ever.
This must be a bug, don't you agree?
HOW I FOUND OUT:
I made a new user on my system. Booted FCPX. The Audio Meters are disabled as default on FCPX. Once I enabled the Audio Meters, the same problem occurred here.
I went back to my main user, disabled the Audio Meters - and everything ran smoothly again.
Last edit: 11 Nov 2013 12:42 by funkpost.
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11 Nov 2013 12:42 #34007
by NocoDave
Replied by NocoDave on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
A bug or not it's definitely an issue they'll need to look at. I've not checked in a while but in early FCPX version I found that the wave form monitors used loads of GPU. I don't have the greatest graphics card, but it was either use dual monitors and keep the waveform monitors off or have horrible general experience in the timeline or event browser.
It wasn't that bad as you don't really need to be timeline editing or event browsing while dong colour work, but smooth playback while sound monitoring is pretty essential.
Thanks for the update.
It wasn't that bad as you don't really need to be timeline editing or event browsing while dong colour work, but smooth playback while sound monitoring is pretty essential.
Thanks for the update.
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11 Nov 2013 12:44 #34008
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
I can bog down a FW800 drive with enoufh HD multicam streams pretty easily. Rendering before playback should help.
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11 Nov 2013 12:50 #34009
by funkpost
Replied by funkpost on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
Funny thing is though, that I did not have this problem prior to upgrading to Mavericks - with the exact same conditions.
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11 Nov 2013 13:48 #34012
by jjsanderson
Replied by jjsanderson on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
Daft question - how long since you upgraded to Mavericks? Doing so triggers a re-indexing of your drives, which can take a few hours and significantly degrades disk performance until it's complete.
I've not seen any such frame-drop issues on either of my systems, happily. They're both running Mavericks, and on both I keep the audio meters open.
I've not seen any such frame-drop issues on either of my systems, happily. They're both running Mavericks, and on both I keep the audio meters open.
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11 Nov 2013 13:50 #34013
by funkpost
Replied by funkpost on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
About two weeks I believe.
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11 Nov 2013 15:54 #34016
by Atamanov
Replied by Atamanov on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
THanks. now audio meter geting off:)
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11 Nov 2013 22:05 #34034
by DmitriZigany
Replied by DmitriZigany on topic FCP X + Mavericks = Frame dropping?!
Yes, I'm also experiencing this since upgrading to Mavericks!
Just hoping it will be sorted by OSX 10.9.1 or FCPX 10.1...
I'm on a rMBP, btw...
Just hoping it will be sorted by OSX 10.9.1 or FCPX 10.1...
I'm on a rMBP, btw...
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