Duplicating Project command (used clips only) is duplicating unused compound clips

Hi all,

I am loving the compound clips functionality and using it constantly.

However I am experiencing an issue:

If I duplicate a simple Project:

- containing no compound clips
- with the "used clips only" option selected
- who's primary event does contains compound clips

...then those compound clips are being duplicated regardless of not being in the Project (timeline).

Is anyone able to confirm/explain this?

Many thanks

Are there clips in the compound clip that are used in the project?

Thanks for the quick reply.

Are there clips in the compound clip that are used in the project?

No. As stated:

If I duplicate a simple Project:

- containing no compound clips

But if you are asking if there is a clip in the timeline that is also used in a compound clip then the answer is yes.

That's why the compound clip is included. However be careful after the duplication that the referenced events are the correct ones. Use the project properties inspector to insure that the duplicate project references the duplicated event and not the original event. This can happen when clips in projects also appear in compound clips.

That's why the compound clip is included.

Could you help me understand, or suggest a resource that would help me understand this?

If I am understanding correctly the command which says "Duplicate Project and used clips" could say "Duplicate Projects and used clips plus any compound clips containing clips used in the project"

That little addendum means that because I have a single graphic used in the simple cut as well as in 10 far more complex cuts (which have been turned into compound clips), the command "Duplicate Project and used clips" applied to the simple edit brings all media from all 11 edits.

And this is simply because of a common graphic?

Surely this can't be correct.

Just thought I'd bump this topic since i am about to go to bed on this side of the world...

Any one able to chip in?

"Surely this can't be correct."

This is correct. I think I explained that. Used clips means any part thereof. One graphic used that appears in a compound clip and the CC is duplicated. One second of a one hour clip and the one hour clip is duplicated. The CC is treatment as a complete video clip. You are using a portion of that clip (or a clip that's inside the CC). Duplication and media management need work.

"This is correct. I think I explained that."

You said that, yes - but no, you didn't explain it.

I don't see the logic. I hope you can help me see what i am missing...I am not using the CC in the duplicated project. Sure, the Project is using the clip that the CC in the event also happens to be using, but I am duplicating the project, not the event. There is no reason for FCPX to duplicate the CC.

What am I missing?

You're duplicating the project with used clips, right?

Please use feedback.

You're duplicating the project with used clips, right?

Yes. But the point is that I have created compound clips during the edit that have since been deleted from the project and now only exist in the Event.

Then, when I duplicate that CC-less event (used clips only option) the CC's and their contents are duplicated despite being only in the Event - not in the project.

Please use feedback.

Do you mean feedback to Apple?

Are you suggesting this might be a bug? I would be satisfied with that as understandable. It is harder to grasp the idea that this is how it is designed to work - that just wouldn't make any sense.

Or am I misunderstanding the feedback reference?

I don't know if it was designed to work that way, but that's the way the application is working. I don't think we can beat this horse any further. He's not getting up.

Thank Tom ill run some experiments tomorrow and get back with my results. I just wanted to know if someone had been through this before me. Thanks for your input.

OK I have done the testing and this is re-poduceable behaviour. I am going to re-post this in a fresh thread for the sake of clarity and getting some new eyes on it. It is either a bug, a design flaw that seriously impacts media management or possibly just that i am thinking about it all wrong (which is why I am throwing it up on a forum).

To anyone else experiencing this issue, this thread over at creative cow discusses it in detail.

forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/49163